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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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Okay guys, last month, this month, and all my time (and $$) through novemeber i'm devoting to fixing all the $hit that's wrong with my car (the previous owner kept up on the upkeep, ie oil changes and such, but did nothing about the shocks that squeak, the slipping clutch, etc). Now when it's all up to par, it's coming apart while it's not getting driven this winter. I'm puttin on coated jet hot LT's, and an exhaust guy i know if fabbing me true duals. Now, the motor has 80K on it. For the past few weeks, i've been debating between H/C, and the bottle. I was wondering, what do you guys think would be better? LE1 package vs. an NO2 setup with ALL the safety features. Additionally, which would be better for me considering the relatively high milage of my baby?? Thanks, and sorry for the long-winded post.
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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Nitrous is definitely gonna be the more hp per dollar option. Installation time will be much less as well. Tuning is relatively nill since you will just be shooting it as needed. Maybe a couple degrees retard, which I would recommend with an igntion box. I don't know anything about your H/C choice but my guess is that a 125 shot is gonna yield more than the H/C. On the flip side, the H/C is always on the throttle and would aid in nitrous use (better flow, etc). Most prefer to go H/C first it seems.
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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i would probably do the H/C package more. It's always lurking under your right foot....the bottle never goes dry...and a nastly lope is just plain intimidating. I would do that and buy a nitrous system later and shoot for high 10's after u get a 9", some gears and suspension stuff.
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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Do both. You could pick up a used nitrous kit for a few hundred. The H/C would be more expensive, but there's just something sweet about having lots of N/A power
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 06:37 AM
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I say H/C. I'm loving my Lloyds heads and Joe O. cam. Times in sig.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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That sure is fast for just heads and cam! 11.7 at 117mph! Wow.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by skinnies
I say H/C. I'm loving my Lloyds heads and Joe O. cam. Times in sig.
How much do Lloyd Elliot heads run??
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 10:24 AM
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950 is what my buddy paid. That includes all the porting, installing single springs, 2.02 Ferrera valves and all that good stuff. From what I understand he is the man for the LT work!
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Casper97
950 is what my buddy paid. That includes all the porting, installing single springs, 2.02 Ferrera valves and all that good stuff. From what I understand he is the man for the LT work!
Does he have a website, or phone number...anything of that matter?

950 sounds like a great deal
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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You can reach him at nighttrain66@msn.com or call him 972-617-5671. Good Luck and nice car!
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Casper97
You can reach him at nighttrain66@msn.com or call him 972-617-5671. Good Luck and nice car!
Yep, he prefers you call him, but you can email him also, and he's currently working on a website. I'm soon going to be running the le2 heads/cam on a 383 and some juice. I'm shooting for 10.99 on 255/50/16 drag radials and on the juice this fall with no other mods.
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Lloyd may be the bargain of the H/C world but Advanced Induction is where it's at for the best street and race setups.

Heads and cam is the way to go. You could have a nitrous cam made for your setup if you want to go that way down the road. When you get your heads done you can have them decked to make more compression, as the juice loves compression.

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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 94Formula/TA
Lloyd may be the bargain of the H/C world but Advanced Induction is where it's at for the best street and race setups.

Heads and cam is the way to go. You could have a nitrous cam made for your setup if you want to go that way down the road. When you get your heads done you can have them decked to make more compression, as the juice loves compression.

Rich
I think that used to be the truth, but anymore I think Lloyd's packages are putting down just as much power as Phil's and for a cheaper price. Just by taking a quick look at his webpage, I don't see a single car making 380rwtq(sae) on his site like I am with my baby cam. Not doggin' Phil's packages because they are good, but I think Lloyds packages are just as good and are cheaper. Although, I do also believe that dyno #'s mean nothing, and track times are whats really important.
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 03:32 AM
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Skinnies, i'm curious here; do you have the LE1 or LE2 heads? By looking at your times, i think it would be safe to say that you have the le2. Anyway, what do all of you guys think about these two options with the 80k on my lt1?? Thanks for the info, keep it coming.
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by skinnies
I think that used to be the truth, but anymore I think Lloyd's packages are putting down just as much power as Phil's and for a cheaper price. Just by taking a quick look at his webpage, I don't see a single car making 380rwtq(sae) on his site like I am with my baby cam. Not doggin' Phil's packages because they are good, but I think Lloyds packages are just as good and are cheaper. Although, I do also believe that dyno #'s mean nothing, and track times are whats really important.
Is Lloyd Elliot still doing PP work at this time? I heard a few months ago that he had a sick family member and was not taking new jobs.
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 03:35 AM
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H/C First..
Slap the bottle on later..

Well, atleast that's the way I decided to do it.. Looking for a NX Maf kit at the present time..
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by METALBEAST
Is Lloyd Elliot still doing PP work at this time? I heard a few months ago that he had a sick family member and was not taking new jobs.
Yes he's back to doing work.
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