do i need a stall ?
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From: rio grande city
do i need a stall ? i got any automatic transmission on my 96'lt1 would i need a stall with the cam GM846 (222/230 - .509/.528 - 112lsa) and 1.6 rr's i use my car for daily driving is it capable of being used without a stall ? if no whats the best cam i can use without a stall ?
Last edited by riodealz28; Oct 6, 2005 at 12:45 AM.
Originally Posted by riodealz28
is it capable of being used without a stall
I would get that stall put in ASAP.
Originally Posted by infinitebird
Unfortunately no. See, GM built in a little performance detector box for things like this. It has a lot of sensors that will tell the PCM what kind of power the car is making over time. If it senses that there is an aftermarket cam but the car still retains the stock stall speed, after a six month period it will tell the engine to throw a rod.
I would get that stall put in ASAP.
I would get that stall put in ASAP.
What????????????????????????????????? Adding a stall is going to help take advantage of where the cam makes power. Without adding a proper stall for the car, it will prolly be a serious dog off the line.
Matt
Originally Posted by infinitebird
Unfortunately no. See, GM built in a little performance detector box for things like this. It has a lot of sensors that will tell the PCM what kind of power the car is making over time. If it senses that there is an aftermarket cam but the car still retains the stock stall speed, after a six month period it will tell the engine to throw a rod.
I would get that stall put in ASAP.
I would get that stall put in ASAP.
Originally Posted by infinitebird
Unfortunately no. See, GM built in a little performance detector box for things like this. It has a lot of sensors that will tell the PCM what kind of power the car is making over time. If it senses that there is an aftermarket cam but the car still retains the stock stall speed, after a six month period it will tell the engine to throw a rod.
I would get that stall put in ASAP.
I would get that stall put in ASAP.
LMFAO
what does the computer exactly say to the motor when it "tells the engine to throw a rod"???
Originally Posted by buffman
What????????????????????????????????? Adding a stall is going to help take advantage of where the cam makes power. Without adding a proper stall for the car, it will prolly be a serious dog off the line.
Originally Posted by SmokedOutZ28
LMFAO
what does the computer exactly say to the motor when it "tells the engine to throw a rod"???
what does the computer exactly say to the motor when it "tells the engine to throw a rod"???
If(stall=stock)
then { (day=day+1);
If(day=> 180)
then(throw_rod=TRUE)
}
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Originally Posted by koolaid_kid
If(cam_change=yes)
If(stall=stock)
then { (day=day+1);
If(day=> 180)
then(throw_rod=TRUE)
}
If(stall=stock)
then { (day=day+1);
If(day=> 180)
then(throw_rod=TRUE)
}
ok i ran a cam in my car bigger then that without a stall for about 9 months 8K miles with no problems. you will not have any problems it's just in your best interest to get a stall.
Originally Posted by SmokedOutZ28
What?? ok i ran a cam in my car bigger then that without a stall for about 9 months 8K miles with no problems. you will not have any problems it's just in your best interest to get a stall.
ok i ran a cam in my car bigger then that without a stall for about 9 months 8K miles with no problems. you will not have any problems it's just in your best interest to get a stall.if (sarcasm_detector == failing) {
emit_obvious_answer(cam, stall);
else {
}
This thread went to hell in a hand basket in a hurry. Like SmokedOutZ28 said...absolutly need a stall? NO. Would it help get the most out of your setup? YES.
After my cam swap, I ran a 13.1 @106 with my stock converter. I installed a 3500stall TCI converter and the next week ran a 12.4 @ 108 with no other mods than the stall added. Same track and weather as well. Just to give you an idea of how a stall converter helped me.
After my cam swap, I ran a 13.1 @106 with my stock converter. I installed a 3500stall TCI converter and the next week ran a 12.4 @ 108 with no other mods than the stall added. Same track and weather as well. Just to give you an idea of how a stall converter helped me.
I cant se why people dont want to d the stall, well I was kinda like that but then I put it in and it was one of the best mods i have ever made. Its an easy .5 off your time, its an awesome mods, stock cam or after market
Originally Posted by koolaid_kid
If(cam_change=yes)
If(stall=stock)
then { (day=day+1);
If(day=> 180)
then(throw_rod=TRUE)
}
If(stall=stock)
then { (day=day+1);
If(day=> 180)
then(throw_rod=TRUE)
}
Yeah you'll want a converter for sure with a cam, check with the manufacturer for their recommended stall speed, then give one of the sponsers a call and see what they can do for you.
