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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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Anyways Mustang guys never say the truth about what under their hoods but they will never brake the 12 with bolt-ons. Thats what I know and what Ive seen.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Ran my friend's stock '05 Mustang GT this past Saturday night in somewhat shoddy weather, went 13.63/102 on a 2.10 60 foot with street tires.

They can go 11's with bolt on's on motor, its already been done.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by prostock_bigblock
Anyways Mustang guys never say the truth about what under their hoods but they will never brake the 12 with bolt-ons. Thats what I know and what Ive seen.


http://www.cnlperformance.com/index.shtml

11.93@114 Bolt ons
10.99@119 100 shot


http://www.procharger.com/2005_mustang_link3.shtml
Justin Burcham: 565 RWHP (665 crankshaft HP)

• 10.47 @ 131 mph
• 100 octane unleaded
• D-1SC ProCharger
• 800 HP intercooler upgrade
• 16 psi
• standard 8 rib drive
• totally stock motor
• aftermarket exhaust
• only ProCharger and air-to-air intercooler:
no nitrous, no race fuel, and no ice!

I can attest to this car running the times he is a local around here also a shop owner. Hell i seen on mtv last night they were doing a need 4 speed mustang give a way and pall wall ran high 14's tyson beckford and anthony anderson both took the same car and ran low to mid 15's its a auto can screw much up there buy they managed to. Its all in the driver.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Camaro 0wner
Honestly, I don't think the underdrive pulley I have on my car came with a balancer. After I got all the work done to my car I noticed it looked a little damaged. Sure enough, when the car was running it had a wobble in it. He said I should put the stock one back on so I have a harmonic balencer to keep it straight. He said I would lose a little power, but not much. So, I can get an ASP UD Balencer that will go on to my current underive pulley, or do I just need to completely buy a new set? I know they are march underdrive pulleys. I think the look up is 04485

Should I just go back to the stock one? Would I see a difference in my track time?
You are supposed to stack your stock one on top of the pulley you have, thats why i came with longer bolts. I have seen alot of novices install the pulley without a balencer, (even seen people use the long bolts that came with the pulley and destroy the opti), but there is no excuse for someone that claims to be a mechanic to do so. The ASP is a TRUE balencer/ UDpulley. The gains from your style pulley, since you loose no mass, is nominal (about .02). The gains from the ASP is about 1.2 tenths, and 8hp no matter what other mods you have. (I have tested this SEVERAL times).
Get an ASP, or put your stocker back on
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by blackstang3o2
http://www.cnlperformance.com/index.shtml

11.93@114 Bolt ons
10.99@119 100 shot


http://www.procharger.com/2005_mustang_link3.shtml
Justin Burcham: 565 RWHP (665 crankshaft HP)

• 10.47 @ 131 mph
100 octane unleaded
• D-1SC ProCharger
• 800 HP intercooler upgrade
• 16 psi
• standard 8 rib drive
• totally stock motor
• aftermarket exhaust
• only ProCharger and air-to-air intercooler:
no nitrous, no race fuel, and no ice!

IIts all in the driver.

LOL, since when is 100 octane NOT race fuel
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by lt1dave
LOL, since when is 100 octane NOT race fuel

well if you imply that racing fuel is leaded then it wouldn't be race gas now would it. I myself wish stations around here would sell higher octane unleaded gas.

Matt
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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100 octane isnt race fuel, its just high octane gasoline. They sell 100 unleaded at a pump around here anyone can go buy it.

And I pulled a car and some change on a 05 GT from a 70-100 roll when I was trapping 102.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by buffman
well if you imply that racing fuel is leaded then it wouldn't be race gas now would it. I myself wish stations around here would sell higher octane unleaded gas.

Matt
They don't sell 100 octane, because there aren't too many street driven race cars that need it. But there are 2 kinds of fuel.
(Lead doesn't have anything to do with it. Except MOST race fuel is leaded, there for is illegal to use on the highway. )
Pump gas:you can buy at ANY gas station across the nation.
Or Race Fuel:fuel only specialized stations sell.( Usually these stations are around race tracks etc.).
100 OCTANE is sold at a very select amount of places. Its race fuel, because it is used to RACE, not in a commuter car, for daily use. Not that you CANT, but not to go any further than the tank of fuel you have would take you.
My point is, put some 91 octane in that car and see how it does. That would be insane to do on a boosted car. However this proves my point. It had race fuel to make that power.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lt1dave
You are supposed to stack your stock one on top of the pulley you have, thats why i came with longer bolts. I have seen alot of novices install the pulley without a balencer, (even seen people use the long bolts that came with the pulley and destroy the opti), but there is no excuse for someone that claims to be a mechanic to do so. The ASP is a TRUE balencer/ UDpulley. The gains from your style pulley, since you loose no mass, is nominal (about .02). The gains from the ASP is about 1.2 tenths, and 8hp no matter what other mods you have. (I have tested this SEVERAL times).
Get an ASP, or put your stocker back on
Where can I get this ASP. So basically, the underdrive pulley that I have (that was removed today and now I have the stock one) is useless? I have to buy a whole new set now. If so, where can I get it? Do you have a website I can order it from, or the specific name for everything I will need, the price, etc?

Thanks
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by lt1dave
They don't sell 100 octane, because there aren't too many street driven race cars that need it. But there are 2 kinds of fuel.
(Lead doesn't have anything to do with it. Except MOST race fuel is leaded, there for is illegal to use on the highway. )
Pump gas:you can buy at ANY gas station across the nation.
Or Race Fuel:fuel only specialized stations sell.( Usually these stations are around race tracks etc.).
100 OCTANE is sold at a very select amount of places. Its race fuel, because it is used to RACE, not in a commuter car, for daily use. Not that you CANT, but not to go any further than the tank of fuel you have would take you.
My point is, put some 91 octane in that car and see how it does. That would be insane to do on a boosted car. However this proves my point. It had race fuel to make that power.
yea, there is a station here that sells 100 octane, only one in the city, its a Shell station. Never got any since i dont exactly have a car yet but its expensinve as hell, plus a little ways away for me to drive to get gas, but when i start going to the track ill fill up on it.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by prostock_bigblock
Anyways Mustang guys never say the truth about what under their hoods but they will never brake the 12 with bolt-ons. Thats what I know and what Ive seen.





http://www.cnlperformance.com/index.shtml

11.93@114 Bolt ons
10.99@119 100 shot


http://www.procharger.com/2005_mustang_link3.shtml
Justin Burcham: 565 RWHP (665 crankshaft HP)

• 10.47 @ 131 mph
• 100 octane unleaded
• D-1SC ProCharger
• 800 HP intercooler upgrade
• 16 psi
• standard 8 rib drive
• totally stock motor
• aftermarket exhaust
• only ProCharger and air-to-air intercooler:
no nitrous, no race fuel, and no ice!

I can attest to this car running the times he is a local around here also a shop owner. Hell i seen on mtv last night they were doing a need 4 speed mustang give a way and pall wall ran high 14's tyson beckford and anthony anderson both took the same car and ran low to mid 15's its a auto can screw much up there buy they managed to. Its all in the driver.
Well lets get rid of our ls1`s and let us get the 11s bolt-on 05 stang`s. However , if you consider a 100 octane and also the 100 shots as boltons thats you opinion though.

It would run 12`s but we are comparing ls1`s means of boltons as light stuff(pulley, intake....etc). I`ve been to the track and been to stang forums and rarely read any body done that . If he is the first guy ,doesnt mean all of tem would run the same times or would have also the same performance . saw guys at the track and they hardly get to low 13`s with bolt-ons , and talked to them personally and raced one of them. I wouldn`t disagree with what I`ve seen by my own eyes.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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Mustangs=Garbage
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lt1dave
They don't sell 100 octane, because there aren't too many street driven race cars that need it. But there are 2 kinds of fuel.
(Lead doesn't have anything to do with it. Except MOST race fuel is leaded, there for is illegal to use on the highway. )
Pump gas:you can buy at ANY gas station across the nation.
Or Race Fuel:fuel only specialized stations sell.( Usually these stations are around race tracks etc.).
100 OCTANE is sold at a very select amount of places. Its race fuel, because it is used to RACE, not in a commuter car, for daily use. Not that you CANT, but not to go any further than the tank of fuel you have would take you.
My point is, put some 91 octane in that car and see how it does. That would be insane to do on a boosted car. However this proves my point. It had race fuel to make that power.
I was agreeing with you. I was just being sarcastic in my reply
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragframe
my buddy beat one in his 2006 Cobalt SS/SC... that was to 70... and i beat my friends cobalt (96 LT1)... i dunno. The guy in the mustang was PISSED that he got beat by a 4 banger
I know they have a SC but thats still just sad. I guess ford figues since f-bodys are off the radar they can drag their heels on performance on the stang
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 1993CaMaRoZ28ofIdAhO
Mustangs=Garbage
Dont get ignorant.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bandit 1
I know they have a SC but thats still just sad. I guess ford figues since f-bodys are off the radar they can drag their heels on performance on the stang
A local with a stock SS ran a 14.4 I think but he trapped 97-98mph. Thats not too bad for a 4 cyl. Hell my SRT4 trapped 100mph bone stock, I was hoping a spring would get my traps up but It just pulled timing too much in fourth gear, I picked up 3mph in the 1/8, but the trap stayed the same.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 08:59 PM
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Where can I get this ASP. So basically, the underdrive pulley that I have (that was removed today and now I have the stock one) is useless? I have to buy a whole new set now. If so, where can I get it? Do you have a website I can order it from, or the specific name for everything I will need, the price, etc?
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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Ignorant? I dislike mustangs and i said it, nothing "ignorant" was said in 2 words.
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 1993CaMaRoZ28ofIdAhO
Ignorant? I dislike mustangs and i said it, nothing "ignorant" was said in 2 words.
No you didnt say "I dont like mustangs" you said "mustangs=garbage" which implies that they are not good vehicles, which is FAR from the truth.
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 01:00 AM
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about that 10 sec stang that is running 16psi ? i thought the new stangs couldn't handle too much boost what gives is the motor built or what
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