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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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I was just wondering the stock internal LT1 record is 10.86, right? How much stuff can you get away with? Does the motor have to be completely untouched--or can you do little tricks? like roller rocker arms, throttle body and stuff like that. Let me know. Thanks.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Its not that good. I think it is closer to 11.89. There are several threads discussing it right now in the LT1 section
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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Stock bottum end im pretty sure is 10.9. Um alot of people are in high 11s with head n cam etc......
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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If by internals you mean rotating assembly... you can do anything short of rebuilding it.

http://media.putfile.com/BRUTL-TA

I'm willing to bet that's one of the top stock internal cars

I believe his username is quickshotkimber on here.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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Stock bottum end im pretty sure is 10.9. Um alot of people are in high 11s with head n cam etc......

Are yall talking stock bottom end w H/C? I always took stock internal as being stock heads & cam. This would include boltons and rockers. In that respect it is 11.8ish if I am not mistaken. For H/C I think it is in the 10.9 range.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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What you are referring to is stock + BOLT ONS...

heads and cam are NOT internals.

well maybe cam is but heads are not.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by flatlander757
What you are referring to is stock + BOLT ONS...

heads and cam are NOT internals.

well maybe cam is but heads are not.

Exactly, but why would you do heads and NOT the cam?
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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Sorry guys I meant stock bottom end, stock cam and stock heads but forced induction record. I was wondering what I could get away with on this record. If I could run 1.6 rocker arms would that be cheating because it's upping the lift of the cam.
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Originally Posted by 1996z28
Sorry guys I meant stock bottom end, stock cam and stock heads but forced induction record. I was wondering what I could get away with on this record. If I could run 1.6 rocker arms would that be cheating because it's upping the lift of the cam.
speedinc has gone 11.30s i belive
and Jose's(forcedinduction) customer went 130mph with a t70 on a stock lt1 motor
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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The lines are blurred. When someone says "stock internals" or "untouched LT1" I believe they mean a completely stock longblock all the way down to the rockers and valve springs. For further clarification the valve covers have never been off. Then you have two classes: N/A and N/A + N2O. I belive I have the record of 12.042 N/A. The N/A + N2O record is 10.80 or so. This is not to be confused with boltons. Boltons includes rocker arms and valve springs but you can't take the heads off.
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Blah who gives three *****... just go fast whatever the hell you do
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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ok.. stock internals.. is generaly accepted as STOCK ROTATING ASSEMBLY... everything else can be changed. The rotating assembly is what is considered internal.
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Okay this is confusing. So for nitrous there is an untouched record and a full bolt on nitrous record? I really need to know this info because I am trying to shoot for the record next year. So far my car is just on headers, rear end and a little N20 and my car is running 11.60. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 1996z28
Sorry guys I meant stock bottom end, stock cam and stock heads but forced induction record. I was wondering what I could get away with on this record. If I could run 1.6 rocker arms would that be cheating because it's upping the lift of the cam.
I might be the only one that read the question and took it as you meant it.
One b-body guy has gone 11.3 with nothing more inside the engine than springs and rockers. Pretty sure this was just a 150 shot too, his best NA is 12.3 he really is the undisputed bolton king though for a littlewhile there was competition but then Yank built him really the latest cutting edge performance converter like experimental impeller type thing and he has been ahead since.

I know you guys are looking for f-body stuff but my point is if a b-body can be this fast with the extra weight and "smaller" cam there has to be f-bodies faster. Plus it helps to keep you guys on your toes if you know there are some FAST b-bodies around. Never know when "grandpa's car" will embarras you at a light or the strip.
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