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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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I have have dana lifters(hydrualic) which are basically just a stock replacement. How high of rpm can stock lifters or dana take before the power falls of dramatically? Also can one bad lifter or all of them cause such a dramatic power drop? The car is peaking around 6300 and was designed to peak around 6800 or so. The hp is dropping off by about 30 horse from 6300-6700. Also the tuning is the best it can get, a/f is 12.9 all through, andd spark advance pretty aggressive. We tried alot of things up top, but nothing helped. thanks guys
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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I wouldn't turn stockers more than 6500 tops before you can expect them to pump up and even thats pushing it. I use to think Comp R's were a cheaper solution but since the design change it appears the only real solution now is a quality lifter like Morel.
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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how much do the morels run for an lt1? Also do you think that is why my power drops off so quick?
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Juicedz
how much do the morels run for an lt1? Also do you think that is why my power drops off so quick?
From what I have seen they run about 500 a set. LT1s and LS1s use the same lifter so if you see some for sale from a LS1 you can still roll with them.

Very well could be the cause of your issues but at the same time it could be something else.
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Juicedz
how much do the morels run for an lt1? Also do you think that is why my power drops off so quick?
most places are about $499 give or take. thunder has a valvetrain discount going on right now
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Or a little cheaper.

The spring pressures on his setup are a little much.

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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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make sure your valvesprings are matched to the size of your cam and your rockers arent set too tight. that could kill your power up top.
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Yeah that's all taken care of, I've run these springs and lobes before and they work fine.

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something else, what about my tranny? i went from a sixspeed putting 160 to the wheels on a 150 shot, then going to th400, 3800 stall and only put 130 to the wheels on a 200 shot, nothing else changed. Does the type of tranny you run (m6 or th400) depend on what rpm the power PEAKS at?
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If you look thru this site there is a guy who did a comparison of his 500+ rwhp LS1 setup with a M6 first then a TH400 and lost something like 100-150hp at the tires after the swap.

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bret, you have an email @bauer racing
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