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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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I havent talkd to him about it lately but i think he was saying my rings would go out pretty damn fast, and it would be hard to get the compression back down with higher flowing heads. He said it would be smarter to rebulid before a head swap, but then i was sceptical when he said i could do a cam and valvetrain and be fine. Im wondering if he thinks when i say heads, he might be thinkin like sb2.2 heads? Dunno though. I just dont have the bread right now to do a full rebuild, my buddies doing a 383, and its coming to about $10,000 after its all said and done. I can maybe do $2000 for everything. At this point i guess ill contact my mech. and see if a small port job is in order.

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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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Most mechanics know amazingly little about how engines really work and what can work on them.. The LT1 breaks a lot of the old "rules". Ask him if a 10:1 compression iron head motor will run well on 87 octane and he will tell you no way, BUT that was stock in the b-bodies.

I currently run a 208/221 cam on styock heads and am in the process of going to something over 220 intake with well ported heads, for a daily driver the current setup is pretty good might have gone a little bigger on the cam and mildly ported heads, but never even come close to 230 for a driver. You might pick up a little power but at a signifigant compromise to drivability.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Hi mileage is not a guide to internal engine condition. You need to do a compression check on all 8 cylinders, followed by a leakdown test on all 8. If you get good numbers, then add whatever you want. If you don't, then fix what's wrong, then build.

If your mechanic like to say stuff like "high mileage...", it's time for a new mechanic that knows what an engine needs from the facts, not from stories from his Uncle Joe.

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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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Hi mileage is not a guide to internal engine condition. You need to do a compression check on all 8 cylinders, followed by a leakdown test on all 8. If you get good numbers, then add whatever you want. If you don't, then fix what's wrong, then build.



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Fixing whats wrong is were it gets spendy. I might just wait on this untill i can rebuild to the 383 and do it all right the first time. Im sure there are other ways to get into the 12s!
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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If you go 383 you might as well do heads or it's just going to be a dog.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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Really the only wear I would really worry about in an LT1 is bearing wear NOT bore wear.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Really the only wear I would really worry about in an LT1 is bearing wear NOT bore wear.
I would agree with that. I can't think of one LT1 block that I have purchased that had any major wear on the bores.

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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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Daren,

You ever check to see how far out of place those blocks you get are? I've had some that can't be corrected with a .030" because the bores are far enough out of place.

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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
Daren,

You ever check to see how far out of place those blocks you get are? I've had some that can't be corrected with a .030" because the bores are far enough out of place.

Bret
Bret,

You have to agree that the average guy is not looking for that little advantage. There is always a performance versus cost factor. It really depends on what the individual is looking for.


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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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I run a COMP Custom Ground cam and stock Ported/Polished opened up valves for heads and am very happy with the combination. Rebuilding the motor as we speak due to a spun rod bearing. It is a .230 .236 .565 .565 on a 112 LSA. And is still very drivable
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GIZMO
Bret,

You have to agree that the average guy is not looking for that little advantage. There is always a performance versus cost factor. It really depends on what the individual is looking for.


Daren
True... to a point. I'm a stickler on everything and I'm not building a average motor 99% of the time.

Then again factory maching is just that, factory.

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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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LS1 Bait, what do you run with your set up? We have similar set ups, except for the bigger cam you have. I was curious how it helped your car perform.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 03:46 AM
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Save your money and do it right! Get a package from L. Elliot and take alot of the guess work out of it. People in here should be able to give you his recommendations and numbers to back up his work.

I have a question I want to add to this thread concerning big cams with proper heads. If you have PORTED HEADS, as 1993CaMaRoZ28ofIdAhO is considering, would the 306 be a good recommendation then? I have a Stage III set flowing 270/200cfm and was curious.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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I have a custom cam from comp. which came from loyd elliott for my 396 project. Its 2XX, 2XX at .050 with .5XX, .5XXift for 1.5 rockers but with 1.6's its gonna be .6XX, .6XX lift. with a 1XXobe separation angle.

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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Docspeed, with the ported heads, the Comp 306 would be a great cam. I know there are newer cams that might work better, but I have seen over 400rwhp with this cam and ported heads.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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224/236 from Combination will do the trick
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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What are a couple of good grinds that work well with ported LT1 heads??
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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What's with all this 2xx/2xx stuff? Are you running something so secret you think no one has tried it before?

How useful is this:

I'm running a 200x Camaro with a 3xx motor.
The cam is a 2xx/2xx at xxxLSA.
It runs 1x.xx in the 1/x mile.

I am xx years old.

Shhhhh... it's secret.

Jim
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 1993CaMaRoZ28ofIdAhO
Fixing whats wrong is were it gets spendy. I might just wait on this untill i can rebuild to the 383 and do it all right the first time. Im sure there are other ways to get into the 12s!
You might do the inexpensive tests and find that nothing is wrong!
Or you might find that you only need a relatively inexpensive top-end job.

Jim
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaT
What's with all this 2xx/2xx stuff? Are you running something so secret you think no one has tried it before?

How useful is this:

I'm running a 200x Camaro with a 3xx motor.
The cam is a 2xx/2xx at xxxLSA.
It runs 1x.xx in the 1/x mile.

I am xx years old.

Shhhhh... it's secret.

Jim
loyd probably pmed him asking him to take the numbers down since its one of his custom cams
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