Charging TA

Good point.

Charging TA

Tekprodave,

Since we were on the subject I dont think theres a reason to open a new thread for this... You made a good valid point, and I should be ordering it within the next few weeks (I live in Europe now, so I will have it either shipped to a friend or if the Delteq dealer has them in stock have the friend pick it up and ship it to me)... I have a few questions, should I install this right away when I get it? My point is this... I wont be driving the TA for at least a month more (because of icey roads, gonna wait for spring to come). If the optical sensor does go bad someday, is that a hard part/expensive part to replace?

Thanks for your help, Im also open to any advice you have regarding the system.

Edit: I was just looking at the installation manual, I thought you removed the old opti setup completly but I guess not, which should make this a pretty simple install... But do you still face the problems such as if you hit a puddle (hypothetically) or if the water pump goes and get the opti wet, do you have to replace the opti even if running the Delteq? I know this sounds like a pretty dumb question.

SRZ

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Hypothetically you shouldn't have a problem if it's vented but I can't say for certain. I like the kit alot. Just wish there was a way to hide it as I've got mine mounted on the VC and looks good but I want to put it on the firewall somehow.

Where in Europe are you at?

Charging TA

Thanks for the reply. Im in Finland, just moved here after living in Florida for the past 13 years... I read that one guy had cut off the rotor in his Opti when using the Delteq system, does anyone have any information on this or is it advised against?

With a stock motor, switching to the Delteq should mean that the Opti should last a while longer right? I dont want to buy the Delteq and then have to in a few months get a Opti again... Ive read of performance increases from switching to the Delteq, I know their not going to be as big on a stock motor but the difference should be still "feelable" correct?

Thanks for the help.

SRZ

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You don't have to remove nothing from the opti to work the delteq. People sometimes remove the cap and put the billet opti cover on so it doesn't look as ugly but who sees down there besides yourself anyways?

You'll be find and kick yourself for not doing it sooner.

Finland....cool.

Charging TA

Correction: Finland....cold (-16 right now, got down to 30s the other week)

Thanks for all your help This should be my last question, is a tune/dyno-tune required after installing the system?

tekprodave

Only if you had a tune before and even then it may not be necessary unless you are competing. Typically its the high voltage that kills the opti and causes misfiring. The optical part can fail but it's all or nothing. Either it works or it doesn't.

Charging TA

Awesome, Im pretty excited about getting it... just gotta tell my friend to get it:p

Thanks for all your help guys!

blkchevyz

is this still an issue?

tekprodave

They told me it was so I went with the Delteq. I am currently using the stock 8mm EMI suppression wires with the Delteq. I see no reason to change them at this point.

95 TA - The Beast

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Checkout: Delteq Stuff

It has the full Delteq setup, Billet opti cover, Elite Spark Plug wires, MSD wire retainers, DIS coil adapters, DIS coils and DIS-4 Plus ignition... Now this ignition is not boost referenced for retard, as they assume a given amount of retard to be programmed (for example, 4 degrees) and you can use a hobbs switch to activate the retard when a preset amount of boost is reached...

Personally, I just program the PCM with a custom setup... I am using the DIS retard feature as well as some other 'tricks' for 'future expansion' in the next month or two...

96silverram

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95 TA - The beast, The Delteq setup looks great. Where did you place the MSD 8912 ( pair ). I'm just wondering how you interpreted the coil/rpm signal for a separate tach/shiftlight ?

95 TA - The Beast

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You do not need the tach adapters to do that with our cars, all you need to do is tap into teh white tach wire from the PCM... It is too late for me to go dig up the manuals, but there has to be a reference online...

Just so you know the entire ignition system outside of the ICM and coil not being there is the same... So all of the signals to/from teh PCM are as if the car used a stock ignition... Nothing special in the way of hookups needed...

96silverram

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Yea, I know you can tap the pcm wire, but I personally have never been able to get that to work consistently on my car for some reason. I finally gave up and decided to use the trick little plug/play setup of MSD to get my signal


I can't say it enough, your install looks spectacular. I have some of my 1/2 done install posted in another thread in the LT1 section under the thread name:

Uh oh, somebody was busy this weekend ! Take a look and tell me what you think

blkchevyz

did they tell you why it causes problems?
it just kind of scares me that if a Low resistance wire causes issue, is it messing up your ignition timing?

tekprodave

I didn't ask so I don't know. You can ask them.

Fatal LT1

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I went w/ LTCC b/c i felt it was a better overall product. The built in retard and rev limiter also put it above delteq IMO. I haven't installed it yet but it just came in the mail and looks awesome. VERY impressed so far with the quality.

Pics of mine:

93LT1

I think im going to go with the Ltcc aswell, i love the fact that i can upgrade to LS1 MSD coils. Talk about a bullit proof ignition system lol.

Shon Herron

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I have not read this whole thread yet but I am going to....
I had the LTCC set up on my other car and really liked its features too, 2 step, or timing retard, etc, very nice. I had the coils (8) mounted to the firewall behind the intake. I used OTVC looms and ran them to the back of the car, I think it looked cool and I could have really made it look better if that was my intentions. It was a pain to install but I did my car and a buddy's car like that.

96silverram

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I don't know if I would call either one better than the other, they are both excellent products and two different ways to arrive at the same end result. If your trying to have two step & timing retard that is very easy to accomplish with the DELTEQ system. It requires a MSD's DIS4 & 4 coil interrupt modules. You can also add the MSD DIS Red Twin tower coils to the DELTEQ setup for a complete bullet-proof setup. Overall, DELTEQ's setup with the MSD stuff will cost a little more than a LTCC with 8 MSD red coils and mounting brackets, but I feel they are both excellent products to accomplish solving a long standing LT1 problem.

Delteq system $640
(includes wires)
MSD 2 tower red coils (4)
MSD DIS4 $450 (timing retard & two step)
MSD coil interrupts (4) $120
(included)
Total: $1370

LTCC $400
Taylor wires (suggested) $70
MSD LS1 red coils (8) $580
LTCC does timing retard & two step
LTCC does not need coil inter-rupt modules
LTCC coil brackets $70 ??
Total: $1120

In an effort to make things comparable I have shown the Delteq system with the additional parts for timing retard & two step. I also have shown both systems as if they were done with money no object to get all the best parts and compare on an equal setting. I'm sure both system could be done for much less, but overall I feel both setups are comparable. If your going bare bones and need the two step & timing retard the LTCC can be done for less money.

Hope this helps, 95 T/A beast has some excellent pics of the DELTEQ setup, as well as myself. I'm sure there will be some great pics of the LTCC to come soon from FATAL LT1.

Here's mine (not completely finished yet. Still installing the MSD DIS4 and the (4) inter-rupt modules)