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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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my water pump just went out so i ordered a new one from summit.and i fiqured my opti is about to go out cuz it got soaked, so i got an msd cap and rotor to go along with it.i was looking in one of my Chevy High Performance Mags and i stumbled along a Delteq system.my question is.......is it worth it to do it while everything is out?i know you need a good opti for the system to work perfectly, is the msd suitable for the delteq?or should i get an expensive *** GM Performance Parts replacement?

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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 11:48 PM
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the cap and rotor have nothing to do with it its the actual opti you have to have in good shape to use the delteq and the msd is like 500 bucks thats what i was going to do with mine but with a 2 month wait on it i might go through dynaspark its made the same way from the looks of it and i got a msd cap and rotor coming
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 02:32 AM
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If you end up purchasing a Delteq system you may as well send the MSD cap and rotor back and get a refund. That's the beauty of the Delteq: it bypasses the cap and rotor (high voltage) section of the optispark and only relies on the optical sensor. Basically what happens after you install the Delteq is that your optispark officially becomes a fancy cam position sensor.

I installed my Delteq by attaching the heat shield to the underside of the cowl panel at the back of the engine. No more of this squeezing plug wires through tight and awkward spaces around the accessories everytime I need to do a tune-up. Cool part is that in addition to it being mostly hidden since it's tucked up under the cowl panel, now since the wires are coming from the back of the engine like a regular SBC, I was able to install a set of old school billet wire looms. As far as performance goes I couldn't be more satisfied. The engine seemed to idle a bit smoother and I got crisper throttle response.

I know I'm biased here, but if you've got the funds to do it I'd spring for the Delteq and kill two birds with one stone.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 03:07 AM
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thanx alot......so 2 months huh?so i still need a good opti not cap and rotor?.i'm just afraid that its going to go out after i put the new waterpump in.so i wanna do both at the same time.so should i return the cap and rotor and get a stock distributor?because for sure i'm going to do the delteq system.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 03:26 AM
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I installed my Delteq by attaching the heat shield to the underside of the cowl panel at the back of the engine. No more of this squeezing plug wires through tight and awkward spaces around the accessories everytime I need to do a tune-up. Cool part is that in addition to it being mostly hidden since it's tucked up under the cowl panel, now since the wires are coming from the back of the engine like a regular SBC, I was able to install a set of old school billet wire looms. As far as performance goes I couldn't be more satisfied. The engine seemed to idle a bit smoother and I got crisper throttle response.

Got any pics? I'd like to see this. Thanks!
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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yeah the msd opti unit is on a pretty good backorder they unanticipated the demand for it... i heard if you ordered from summit now it wouldnt be expected to ship until april 14th
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Got any pics? I'd like to see this. Thanks!
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thanx alot......so 2 months huh?so i still need a good opti not cap and rotor?.i'm just afraid that its going to go out after i put the new waterpump in.so i wanna do both at the same time.so should i return the cap and rotor and get a stock distributor?because for sure i'm going to do the delteq system.
Yeah for what you paid for that cap and rotor getting the refund for it should put a pretty good dent in the cost of a new opti. When you get the new opti, take the opportunity to crack the case open and seal the crap out of it with RTV.

Here's a link to the same seller on Ebay that I got my coil pack/ignition module from:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GM-MO...QQcmdZViewItem

And here's a link to the place that I ordered the Delteq bare bones kit from:
http://www.paceparts.com/index.asp?P...&ProdID=146730

Even after I purchased my Accel 300+ 8.8 spark plug wires I still saved $80 over the cost of a complete Delteq kit, and got a helluva lot better set of wires.

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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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i think im going to put the cap and rotor on and order the delteq system.or should i get a whole new distributor from gm?thats the only thing stopping me.i would love to get the msd distributor but i cant wait a month.im still worried the distributo got too wet though.let me kno asap
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You don't need the cap and rotor if you use the Delteq. There is no cap and rotor with the Delteq, period. All that is needed is the back portion.
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Originally Posted by YngBird
i think im going to put the cap and rotor on and order the delteq system.or should i get a whole new distributor from gm?thats the only thing stopping me.i would love to get the msd distributor but i cant wait a month.im still worried the distributo got too wet though.let me kno asap
Send your MSD cap & rotor back, take the refund money and buy a new optispark.

I found this Opti BRAND NEW for $190 here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-9...spagenameZWDVW

If I were you I'd jump on that pretty quick because it's about $100 cheaper than everyone else.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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No he'll need the unvented since it's a 93.
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the msd cap and rotor i ordered (yes it says 92 93) is vented.shoul i get the complete kit, or is it worth it to get a "BARE BONES" kit? i hear the wires that come with the complete kit SUCK!!is it worth it to get a new one even though all i need is the back?
i would love to wait another month and just get the whole msd distributor and forget the delteq,but i cant wait,so i'm going to upgrade to the delteq kit.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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I have the delteq system on my car and love it, The only thing i have to say i dont like it the little more cracking it takes to fir the car. This is b/c the opti and delteq opti box that comes in kit has to synchronized.
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No he'll need the unvented since it's a 93.
Crap, I forgot the timing covers are different on the early LT1's.

Still, I hate to see people spend the kind've ridiculous amount they want for an unvented opti. I think you could still be ahead on money if you got a 95 style timing cover, got the vented opti, and just sealed up the vent holes on it. Just because they're there, doesn't mean you HAVE to use them. But it's up to you and whether you wanna spend the money on an unvented one.

Get the barebones kit and the coilpack in the link I gave you. You'll still be able to save money over the cost of the full blown kit and have your spark plug wire of choice.
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by YngBird
the msd cap and rotor i ordered (yes it says 92 93) is vented.shoul i get the complete kit, or is it worth it to get a "BARE BONES" kit? i hear the wires that come with the complete kit SUCK!!is it worth it to get a new one even though all i need is the back?
i would love to wait another month and just get the whole msd distributor and forget the delteq,but i cant wait,so i'm going to upgrade to the delteq kit.
thanx all
If you're car is taken apart currently, just go ahead and buy a GM opti so you know the optical is good. Hell, you could take off the cap and rotor and sell it on Ebay. Then get your Delteq and you're all set with a nice ignition setup. If your car is still put together, put the Delteq on and see if your optical sensor is gonna be ok. If not, then go ahead and tear it down and put the new GM on it. Either way, the MSD cap and rotor has to go back cuz it's useless in this case. With the new MSD complete opti, it might be another month or it might be 6 months. It's a very taboo subject with the retailers. BTW, I'm using the Delteq wires with no problems. They work just fine in my opinion.
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