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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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A explanation would be nice. lol
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Originally Posted by Sgt. Spuds
A explanation would be nice. lol
lol sorry bud, pain killers make ya loopy...back 3 yrs ago when I bought my virgin mule I looked into these and found a bit of write-up on them online, lost my pc back then and lost the urls, but they flowed less than a stock lt1 intake. Not saying they are junk, for the application they were intended for (with rear distributor setup, etc) they may have been an improvement, but compared to the lt1/lt4 intakes with better runner design, etc it was not a step up. So I went with an LT4 and custom ported it. Here is some more on intake runners that might help a little http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/runnertorquecalc.html, lot of good info out there, do a little searching around.

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Do I need a LT4 intake early on in my mods, like say before a H/C and possibly n20? How important of upgrade is it?
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Originally Posted by Sgt. Spuds
Do I need a LT4 intake early on in my mods, like say before a H/C and possibly n20? How important of upgrade is it?
From what little I know I'd say go with Heads/Cam/LT4 intake, if you can swing the extra $$ have your Heads builder custom port the LT4 (including opening up the intake runners even more, FI ports & Throttle Body porting for a 58mm (obviously you'd have to get a 58mm TB).
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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remember you cant use the lt-4 intake on a stock lt-1 headed car. you have to have the lt-4 heads.
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That's definitely a TPI intake. It's advertised as a TPI intake. Stick with what's advertised for our cars unless you're going with a Victor intake. That particular intake was engineered for the TPI due to little to no top end from the factory. However, our LTx cars were much better than the TPI from the factory.
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I wish people would know what they are talking about before answering stuff like this. this is a TPI intake, but they also make them for LT1's (not sure if they are still made) but i know they DID because i have one on my LT1. Every one see's a TPI intake and remembers what was in a 3rd gen and says why do i want that POS? Yes its not a high reving intake but on the other hand, I use this intake because of the NICE low end torque numbers. Its all about what you want to do with it. longer runner = more torque shorter runner = more hp.. What do u need more? What camshaft are u planning on using?
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The LT4 intake IS NOT an upgrade. The plenum and ports are VERY similar to some of the LT1 intakes. The LT4 intake has extra material on top of the runners to allow port matching to the taller ports on the LT4 heads BUT DOES NOT MATCH well from the factory. That extra material stops it from bolting too unmodified LT1 heads and if you remove the material that interfers from the LT4 intake you just made it an LT1 intake by removing any POTENTIAL avdantage it HAD. Again the LT4 intake ports are basically the same as the LT1 there is just more room to port it to allow it to match LT4 parts and to seal against their taller ports. IT IS NOT AN UPGRADE.

Even a 30 second search would reveal this.

That ignores the fact they are out of production and stock has run out because people so often ASSume that it an upgrade and too many of them got hacked to fit LT1 heads. They now easily go for $500+ on ebay.
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Originally Posted by 87Lt1Monte
Every one see's a TPI intake and remembers what was in a 3rd gen and says why do i want that POS?
Not everyone, just making it clear that it would not get him where he's thinking, then again maybe you don't mean "everyone"
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
That ignores the fact they are out of production and stock has run out because people so often ASSume that it an upgrade and too many of them got hacked to fit LT1 heads. They now easily go for $500+ on ebay.
keep hearing that, haven't searched yet, mine was custom ported & 15 months old when she threw a rod 15 months ago, bolted to AFR210s on my new build in the shop and when I switch the topend out in July, I'm selling them for close to what I paid, just because it's a nice thing to do in our community. Reminds me of what you seen after Andrew hit Florida, water being a commodity was being jacked up to crazy prices till the government stepped in.

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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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I bellieve a little more research needs to be done.
OOOO, wait here's a good article
In a Brief statement expect to see 383 style TQ through out the RPM rang 40-60RWTQ and about 25-35 Hp throughout the RPM range.
The long runner intake usually runs out of breath around 6000 RPM, but who knows, throw some nice heads on there with a nice size cam and it may see 6500 even with the Longer runners .

http://compcams.com/Community/Articl...p?ID=-61543841

Aslo for a lot more information go to camaroZ28.com and search under my name T/A KID and search for Superram intake.
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Originally Posted by 87Lt1Monte
I wish people would know what they are talking about before answering stuff like this. this is a TPI intake, but they also make them for LT1's (not sure if they are still made) but i know they DID because i have one on my LT1. Every one see's a TPI intake and remembers what was in a 3rd gen and says why do i want that POS? Yes its not a high reving intake but on the other hand, I use this intake because of the NICE low end torque numbers. Its all about what you want to do with it. longer runner = more torque shorter runner = more hp.. What do u need more? What camshaft are u planning on using?

Nice Monte you got their. My gf's dad has one. Weighs a little more than yours does

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Nice Monte you got their. My gf's dad has one. Weighs a little more than yours does

yeah very clean and mean looking Monte, my Mom had 85SS that I was cosidering a 572 alum block from World, but decided to get another LT1 and built it up.
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Originally Posted by 87Lt1Monte
I wish people would know what they are talking about before answering stuff like this. this is a TPI intake, but they also make them for LT1's (not sure if they are still made) but i know they DID because i have one on my LT1. Every one see's a TPI intake and remembers what was in a 3rd gen and says why do i want that POS? Yes its not a high reving intake but on the other hand, I use this intake because of the NICE low end torque numbers. Its all about what you want to do with it. longer runner = more torque shorter runner = more hp.. What do u need more? What camshaft are u planning on using?
It says "TPI" in the ad. If it said LT1 perhaps my response to his question would have been different.
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The "Track Results" at the end of this article pretty much tell the tale:

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Thanks that monte is awsome too. I wasnt trying to be a dick, but i also like the LT1 intake, if my car was a little lighter and i didnt go with the 383 i would deff. have a LTX intake on there. i think the LT4 **** is a big waste of money ..
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Originally Posted by 87Lt1Monte
Thanks that monte is awsome too. I wasnt trying to be a dick, but i also like the LT1 intake, if my car was a little lighter and i didnt go with the 383 i would deff. have a LTX intake on there. i think the LT4 **** is a big waste of money ..
Yeah it's a cool monte. 9" out back, tubbed with 4 link, 468BBC Turbo 400 (unknown stall) and some juice. It's getting 4.33s this year.
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