short tubes to long tubes
Originally Posted by 98vortecbw
long tubes are good for top end. shorties are better for low end torque.
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dont even know why im doing this...
anyway i went from shorties edelbrocks to flp long tubes and didnt gain anything.
i had most bolt ons, plus the hot cam. dynoed 344 356 before the long tubes and the same after.
didnt gain anything at the track either.
AT YOUR POWER LEVEL your not going to gain much if any.
unless you got money burning a hole in your pocket get them... if not i would spend the money else where.
personally i would get a stall if your an a4 or gears if your a m6, you will see more of a gain.
anyway i went from shorties edelbrocks to flp long tubes and didnt gain anything.
i had most bolt ons, plus the hot cam. dynoed 344 356 before the long tubes and the same after.
didnt gain anything at the track either.
AT YOUR POWER LEVEL your not going to gain much if any.
unless you got money burning a hole in your pocket get them... if not i would spend the money else where.
personally i would get a stall if your an a4 or gears if your a m6, you will see more of a gain.
Last edited by blkchevyz; Apr 28, 2006 at 04:11 PM.
I had a set of Pace Setter Shorties. The collectors rusted. I am getting Hooker LT's while I fix a blown Head Gasket. I think LT's look better, and my first mistake was Pace Setter stuff. You get what you pay for.
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Originally Posted by the_merv
I had a set of Pace Setter Shorties. The collectors rusted. I am getting Hooker LT's while I fix a blown Head Gasket. I think LT's look better, and my first mistake was Pace Setter stuff. You get what you pay for.
when i put my cam in i did pull them out and painted them with some high temp silver paint... looked good for about a year... then went to ****
Your gains will be MUCH better with longtubes vs. shorties!! There may be a difficult to explain fluke every once in awhile, but longtubes are the proven winner hands down! Longtubes are much better even on a bolt on car. I'm suprised there are still people who even question this. 
ps. Do a search to pull up some of the older threads and you'll see longtubes are the way to go!
ps. Do a search to pull up some of the older threads and you'll see longtubes are the way to go!
Get LT's and just throw Shorty's in the trash, shortys are a little better than stock manifolds. But as stated just do a search there are numerous threads on this exact subject.
No just trying to let people have the proper facts and not some uneducated advise on some turd *** Shorty header fan. If he wants to waste money buy Shorty's he wants to make power buy LT's just stay away from Pacesetters. My friend has mild heads,pacesetter LT's, and a 125 shot thru a th-350 runs 6.96 in the 1/8th.
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Originally Posted by MrBill97396
No just trying to let people have the proper facts and not some uneducated advise on some turd *** Shorty header fan. If he wants to waste money buy Shorty's he wants to make power buy LT's just stay away from Pacesetters. My friend has mild heads,pacesetter LT's, and a 125 shot thru a th-350 runs 6.96 in the 1/8th.
are you 12?
what does what your friend race car have anything to do with this post?
your friend is probably making a tad more hp then this guy
are your goign to tell me he's going to gain more going from shorties to long tubes then he will if it get a stall or gear... oh come on
Originally Posted by blkchevyz
turd ***?? are you 12?
what does what your friend race car have anything to do with this post?
your friend is probably making a tad more hp then this guy
are your goign to tell me he's going to gain more going from shorties to long tubes then he will if it get a stall or gear... oh come on
are you 12? what does what your friend race car have anything to do with this post?
your friend is probably making a tad more hp then this guy
are your goign to tell me he's going to gain more going from shorties to long tubes then he will if it get a stall or gear... oh come on
Dude you really need to get some facts straight, you make erront post on how great shorties are on your car and how you didn't gain from LT's. Which I call total B.S. The statement of my friends STREET car was in reference to an earlier post on Pace Setters. Have you read this thread ? Your misinformed and miseducated to the obvious facts, stall won't help produce power, dou you know what a stall does ? And as for gears why would he need gears to make power? Are you telling me you made more power with gears installed ? In fact who cares about dyno numbers they mean squat unless you put the power to the ground, if he did'n buy LT's he would be better off tightening up the suspension. FYI nope not 12, Shorty's are turd *** headers the sooner that you realize this that is one step in the right direction for you. Next I am sure you will post that power adders are all a myth too. Oh and my buddy's car makes mid 300's not alot of power in reality.
What exactly is wrong with Pacesetter LTs?
Mine fit and look better than any Hooker LTs that I have seen. The Jet hot LTs that I have seen are total sh*t as well. There have been tons more problems with Hooker and JH Lts than Pacesetter LTs.
Mine fit and look better than any Hooker LTs that I have seen. The Jet hot LTs that I have seen are total sh*t as well. There have been tons more problems with Hooker and JH Lts than Pacesetter LTs.
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Originally Posted by MrBill97396
Dude you really need to get some facts straight, you make erront post on how great shorties are on your car and how you didn't gain from LT's. Which I call total B.S. The statement of my friends STREET car was in reference to an earlier post on Pace Setters. Have you read this thread ? Your misinformed and miseducated to the obvious facts, stall won't help produce power, dou you know what a stall does ? And as for gears why would he need gears to make power? Are you telling me you made more power with gears installed ? In fact who cares about dyno numbers they mean squat unless you put the power to the ground, if he did'n buy LT's he would be better off tightening up the suspension. FYI nope not 12, Shorty's are turd *** headers the sooner that you realize this that is one step in the right direction for you. Next I am sure you will post that power adders are all a myth too. Oh and my buddy's car makes mid 300's not alot of power in reality.
sounds like you need to go back and read.
oh and people bragging about there friends race cars is
Originally Posted by azvforce
What exactly is wrong with Pacesetter LTs?
Mine fit and look better than any Hooker LTs that I have seen. The Jet hot LTs that I have seen are total sh*t as well. There have been tons more problems with Hooker and JH Lts than Pacesetter LTs.
Mine fit and look better than any Hooker LTs that I have seen. The Jet hot LTs that I have seen are total sh*t as well. There have been tons more problems with Hooker and JH Lts than Pacesetter LTs.