Triangulated 4-Link in lt1??? help!
Will a tri-4 link out perform the stock style suspension in strait line and road course performance?
I do not want to do a parallel 4 link because i believe they are really only best suited for the straitline screamers, and my car is street duty.
So any one have an opinion??
have you seen a triangulated 4-link? it should not be all that big of a deal... I need to decide on the side bar lengths, then the mounting location of the middle bars (then i can figure heir length..)
And I dont see how the rear seast would have to go... but either way they are already gone.
I bet i could do it in a week... but im not sure if it will be a good setup for what im doing... it works grreat on bagged trucks though!!
here is a triangulated 4 link for a s10....
welll.. basicly like the guy said above... take a look at it and you wont have a back seat anymore (if so.. not much of one).
You could almsot use the 2 stock control arm mounting spots for the outside bars. But ideal would be to have the bars a little longer. So im going to try and figure out how to do that. Then I will have the two triangulated bars come from the middle of the rear end out into the car bascily. They will attach to a roll cage for a ridge mounting location. THen i will sheet metal around them to keep them isolated "under" the car instead of inside..
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well i have to order and install a roll cage before anyhting.. but as soon as i get measurments and get it finished... i have a professional build the bars and what not and will offer them to people
but some fabrication for the middle bars WILL be needed.. lol... of course, this is a fairly extreme mod.
if it turns out good and works how it should... I can probly have them built fully adjustable with hiem joints.. the entire fourlink for a little more than most companys 2-control arms (and probly stronger).
THe only downside is the two upper bars with require what some may consider "extensive" modification. Though I think any decent welder will be able to handle this with ease. The lowers will probly be bolt on.
This isn't that new a situation. In '65, when Shelby had to add upper links to control rear axle tramp on the GT350 Mustangs, the rear seats had to go, as the links went in that space.
In reality, the LCA, torque arm set up isn't all that bad. It's been used quite successfully on a lot of oval track cars (NASCAR modifieds) for many years.
Update: I was thinking about this for a few more minutes. If you go to the UMI website, their "installation pictures" for their torque arm/relocation kit has a couple of excellent pictures of the underside of the F-Bod. These pix clearly show how little room there is around a stock rear axle and suspension assembly.
The picture of the "S-Truck" 4 link you posted, shows what appear to be upper links going to the rear, coming off a mounting plate for a Ford 9" center section. On an "F-Bod", if you're on the street, your exhaust system is there. Also, unless you've converted to a Ford rear, you'll either have to fab a pair of mounting tabs and weld them to the axle tubes (not a good idea), or use a GM rear, and the ears that are part of the diferential casting. There's a potential for geometry problems here, plus the ears are sized for the large OE rubber bushings.
Also, keep in mind that the OE gas tank is directly above the rear axle. If tou put your upper links above the axle (OE GM style), they would probably hit the tank in full suspension compression. Plus, either way, going to the front or rear, you'll have to do some serious cutting of thr floor pan. Not trying to rain on your parade, but it's a VERY ambitious project. Of course, if you're talking strictly a race car, it's a totally different story. Did you mention whether you're talking street or track?
Last edited by leadfoot4; May 11, 2006 at 08:04 AM.
This isn't that new a situation. In '65, when Shelby had to add upper links to control rear axle tramp on the GT350 Mustangs, the rear seats had to go, as the links went in that space.
In reality, the LCA, torque arm set up isn't all that bad. It's been used quite successfully on a lot of oval track cars (NASCAR modifieds) for many years.
Update: I was thinking about this for a few more minutes. If you go to the UMI website, their "installation pictures" for their torque arm/relocation kit has a couple of excellent pictures of the underside of the F-Bod. These pix clearly show how little room there is around a stock rear axle and suspension assembly.
The picture of the "S-Truck" 4 link you posted, shows what appear to be upper links going to the rear, coming off a mounting plate for a Ford 9" center section. On an "F-Bod", if you're on the street, your exhaust system is there. Also, unless you've converted to a Ford rear, you'll either have to fab a pair of mounting tabs and weld them to the axle tubes (not a good idea), or use a GM rear, and the ears that are part of the diferential casting. There's a potential for geometry problems here, plus the ears are sized for the large OE rubber bushings.
Also, keep in mind that the OE gas tank is directly above the rear axle. If tou put your upper links above the axle (OE GM style), they would probably hit the tank in full suspension compression. Plus, either way, going to the front or rear, you'll have to do some serious cutting of thr floor pan. Not trying to rain on your parade, but it's a VERY ambitious project. Of course, if you're talking strictly a race car, it's a totally different story. Did you mention whether you're talking street or track?
but parallel fourl ink is looking to be a better option... but im not sure yet... gunna keep readin...







