SStrokerAce

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You need to tell him to look at the Vortec manifold bolts. They are at a much steeper angle than the LT stuff and they only use the 8 outer bolt holes. I've never had a issue with leaks like that.

The diff between a LT and a SBC (old school) is the bolts are at a different angle and spaced out a little wider. The LT is very similar to the newer style Vortec bolt pattern, but it's not the same.

Bret

OutlawZ

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So you drill new holes at the correct angles into the Super Vic and bam i'm good to go?????

And yeah I can't see having a leak problem if I"ve got like 12 bolts clamping the intake to the heads with a gasket in between.....

SStrokerAce

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You only need 8 bolts to clamp it down.

Yes I do drill the new holes into the intake and spot face them as well.

Bret

97M6Formula

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bret what would it cost in total if I wanted to keep my 58mm tb and have the elbow, intake, machining and basically everything i need to bolt to a set of trick flows(the lt1 style).

SStrokerAce

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e-mail me about it.... I'm working on a elbow for the 58mm stuff as well. It's going to be around $1250 most times for a ported setup.

Bret

C_Rules

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so what happened to all this talk. any updates?

Speed Density

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BoostedZ28

C_Rules

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okay cool. thanks guys. i see both of you went with the ls style tb.

any particular reason you chose that instead of the stock type tb?

are those victor jrs?

also where did you mount the map sensor?

are you running cowls to het those to fit under the hood?

is the single plane worthwhile on a mainly street driven car with stock port & polished heads and mild cam?

just curious because im saving up for my forged 383 build with a nitrous for the track. i was wondering if it would be a good idea to step up to one of these or if it wasn't worth it. currently i have a ported stocker.

BoostedZ28

I'm using a Big Stuff-3 PCM so I hope not to have the "tip-in" issues that some people have had with the 90mm T/B. I was looking for a T/B that is a little bigger than what's available for the LT-1

The intake is a Victor-E. There has been some discussion about it being the best choice, but since I'm "blowing" air thru it, I feel it will perform just fine.

The MAP sensor will just mount in the engine compartment where it is convenient.

The 90 degree elbow that I have is suppose to clear the vehicle's cowl and fit under the stock hood, but I have a sunoco style hood on order.

As far as when a single plane becomes necessary, well I suppose it is a matter of opinion as well, but in a NA application, you need to be moving a lot of air and/or high rpm's in order for the stock intake to start to be the bottleneck.

Eric Bazan

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Man, those set ups are nice!!

Formula350

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You are confusing me here. Are you running the 93 ECM still, or upgraded to 94+ PCM? I looked at the differences in tunes from a 93 to 94, and the 94 has SO MANY more tables than the 93. If you were to do this, I'd say upgrade to a 95 and get the vented opti + OBD1 + the reflashable chip. I think you'll also be able to more fine-tune the setup compared to a 93 with the extra tables. Had I bought a 94, I don't think I'd have been able to tune my own chip like I did. I'd have to read a ton more on it. The 93 was very very similar to my 91 TPI, so it made things easier on me. It's also pretty simple as far as table goes, since there's far less.

Anyways, more to the point, I think you're running an A4 too right? It'd probably be better to run a 94+ system too so you can tune the line pressure as well. Unless you run an external box for a 4L60E, the 93's don't have that luxury

While we're on the thread of aftermarket intakes, why don't people who don't plan to rev insanely high, run a dual-plane for some lovely torque numbers? It seems everyone runs a single-plane. I asked this before but never really got an answer.

Speed Density

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This thread was almost 2yrs ago, ive learned a lot since then.

And im a 93' STOCK PCM and an overdrive loaded A4

C_Rules

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I was thinking about going single plane but I really wanted to use the LT1 style tb. Intake elbows doesn't make that kind of elbow anymore. Don't really need to go single plane since I'm not reving that high. I was going to go that route since it looked awesome and wouldn't hurt performance wise. Don't think I'm going to do it though because I'm going to stick with the stock PCM and I don't want any issues with using the LS style TB.

96redcamaro

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could someone elaborate a little more on the "tip-in" issue.

Speed Density

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I used to have an IE.com elbow too, should have kept that since they dont make them anymore.

Ill find some pics.

FASTFATBOY

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Tip in is when you are cruising along at 80 mph and you let off the gas because the bonehead in front of you is going 55 in the fast lane, when he moves over and you step back on the gas that moment is "tip in".

WHen you leave a stoplight, this is "tip in"


You get someone who can tune, you will have have no "tip in" issues.

My car drives amazingly well, I love it. I have AWESOME throttle response with big heads, big cam, big intake.

WHen I got mine from Intakeelbows.com, it had nothing in the "floor" of the elbow for the shortside radius. I mocked up a piece of manilla folder as to what I wanted and sent it back to Aaron and he welded a piece in. It seems to work well. Aaron has AWESOME customer service!


Here is a pic of my intake elbows.com elbow, shame he doesnt make them any longer.



David

moehorsepower

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Also Tip In with 90 mm Fab is Jack Rabbit starts from a dead stop, Reason being is that as an example when you give say 1/4 throttle to leave from a stop this would be equivalent to say 1/2 throttle with a 58mm T/B (exaggerated) so the car lurks forward, it is hard to take off in a smooth roll because of the amount of additional air the larger T/B is taken in, Make a little more sense now?

Speed Density

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Moe,

Your a goood tuner. How hard is it to tune 'tip-in', honestly?

C Man

Where would you connect all your Vacuum lines, map sensor, etc. to this type of intake? I'm just trying to figure out how complicated it will be, while still keeping it a street car.

Does anyone build a "turn-key" type of kit that will allow for all the extra stuff? So basically my installer up here won't have to "fab" anything up.