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Originally Posted by 98vortecbw
ok... whats the biggest streetable cam for a mostly stock lt1? do not want to custom grind
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Originally Posted by engineermike
I can't wait for this custom cam fad to be over . . .
Mike
Originally Posted by Honda Hunter
How is having a cam designed for your setup a fad? That sounds preposterous.
They make plenty different grinds of cams to work with just about any set up out there. I have built quite a few small blocks and have made great power with cams listed in Summit from Comp cams and Lunati. Of course the cam has to match the set-up but damn, a custom one ain't gonna be that much different! I can see if it's a forced induction motor but I'm referring to a mostly stock or N/A set-up. I guess you really think that Custom set-up is really going to be the fastest thing out there don't you.
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i dont know how long you guys have been around lt1s but the number they are getting these days with custom cams are un herd of a few years ago. i mean **** 3 or 4 years ago a 383 with have issues getting over 400(some still do)
now stock bottom end dynoing over 400 is pretty common, plus they are 10-20 more foot lbs of torque then an off the shelf grind.
if your just looking at lift and duration at 500 your not seeing the whole picture. look at a solid cam vs a hydrolic. if they both had the same lift and duration at 500 the solids still going to make more power and even idle better.
i swapped out my 306 cam with something that had less duration and just a little more lift and i made 11 more hp and 15 foot lbs of torque up the whole rpm band... not just peak numbers. that was using the same ported heads, same valve springs, same everything. i put a better set of ported stock heads on and got another 20 hp.
now stock bottom end dynoing over 400 is pretty common, plus they are 10-20 more foot lbs of torque then an off the shelf grind.
if your just looking at lift and duration at 500 your not seeing the whole picture. look at a solid cam vs a hydrolic. if they both had the same lift and duration at 500 the solids still going to make more power and even idle better.
i swapped out my 306 cam with something that had less duration and just a little more lift and i made 11 more hp and 15 foot lbs of torque up the whole rpm band... not just peak numbers. that was using the same ported heads, same valve springs, same everything. i put a better set of ported stock heads on and got another 20 hp.
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Originally Posted by 98-LS1
They make plenty different grinds of cams to work with just about any set up out there. I have built quite a few small blocks and have made great power with cams listed in Summit from Comp cams and Lunati. Of course the cam has to match the set-up but damn, a custom one ain't gonna be that much different! I can see if it's a forced induction motor but I'm referring to a mostly stock or N/A set-up. I guess you really think that Custom set-up is really going to be the fastest thing out there don't you.
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Originally Posted by blkchevyz
i dont know how long you guys have been around lt1s but the number they are getting these days with custom cams are un herd of a few years ago. i mean **** 3 or 4 years ago a 383 with have issues getting over 400(some still do)
now stock bottom end dynoing over 400 is pretty common, plus they are 10-20 more foot lbs of torque then an off the shelf grind.
if your just looking at lift and duration at 500 your not seeing the whole picture. look at a solid cam vs a hydrolic. if they both had the same lift and duration at 500 the solids still going to make more power and even idle better.
now stock bottom end dynoing over 400 is pretty common, plus they are 10-20 more foot lbs of torque then an off the shelf grind.
if your just looking at lift and duration at 500 your not seeing the whole picture. look at a solid cam vs a hydrolic. if they both had the same lift and duration at 500 the solids still going to make more power and even idle better.
The most powerful NA LT1 that I know if is a local guy named Tim. He made 475 rwhp with an LT4 intake, ported LT4 heads, stock bottom end, and an off-the-shelf SBC solid roller cam.
We don't ALL NEED custom grind cams.
Mike
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Originally Posted by Honda Hunter
Youre a fvcking idiot and a tool. I never said it would be the fastest thing out there but I'm pretty sure the fastest guys are using custom grinds. I'm sure there are some great off the shelf cams for some setups and I'm sure some would be better off with a CG. I wanted the best of both worlds so I went with a CG. i couldve went with a OTS but it's my money and my choice.
Sounds like your the ******* idiot hodge. I seriously doubt I could gain much more HP from a custom cam, if you know your set-up and know what you want then there are plenty of off the shelf cams that'll do the job. The guy asked for some recommendations for a cam size, not the Oh you need a CUSTOM cam comments. I swear, guess you damn towel heads are ignorant as hell
Last edited by 98-LS1; Jul 19, 2006 at 07:57 AM.
Originally Posted by engineermike
I guess they didn't have custom grind cams 3 or 4 years ago??? Since then, there's been alot more off-the-shelf cams offered also. Comp alone offers 14 off-the-shelf cams with anything from slow ramps to very fast ramps. A few years ago, the CC306 was as good as it gets, but Comp has since introduced 2 new lines of lobes and, thus, more off-the-shelf cams. Lunati, Crane, etc. . . offer even more choices.
The most powerful NA LT1 that I know if is a local guy named Tim. He made 475 rwhp with an LT4 intake, ported LT4 heads, stock bottom end, and an off-the-shelf SBC solid roller cam.
We don't ALL NEED custom grind cams.
Mike
The most powerful NA LT1 that I know if is a local guy named Tim. He made 475 rwhp with an LT4 intake, ported LT4 heads, stock bottom end, and an off-the-shelf SBC solid roller cam.
We don't ALL NEED custom grind cams.
Mike
My point exactly, THANK YOU!!!
Originally Posted by 98-LS1
Sounds like your the ******* idiot hodge, go back to ******* your camel and STFU. I swear, guess you damn towel headed sand ******* are ignorant as hell
Comments like this make you look "Ignorant as hell"
Originally Posted by slowmofo
Comments like this make you look "Ignorant as hell"
Do you honestly think I give a damn? All that BS people post in here is uncalled for, he pissed me the hell off being a smartass so I let him know what I thought about it. This is a place for tech advise not a bunch of BS bitching so drop it and get back on topic. It's pathetic that the original post still hasn't been addressed yet, he was asking for a cam recommendation so let's get it back on topic and help the guy out a little.
So, I'm not that familiar with LT1's but a cam such as a CC306 should be plenty. If your just looking for a good sounding cam the LT4 hot cam sounds really mean and makes decent power also that GM 847 seems to be a pretty hot grind. I bought the CC503 cam for my mostly stock LT1, after hearing a sound clip I was impressed with the idle and from what I've read it seems to be good for 350 RWHP. Don't go with too big of a cam though cause not only will you lose power, it will be nearly impossible to tune correctly.
Well you must give a damn if you tried to edit your post... too late now as it has been quoted. While I agree with you that this is a tech forum, and rather then argue over whats better, you should just give the guy advise and let him decide what cam he wants to go with But the crap you posted was way out of line...
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Originally Posted by 98-LS1
Sounds like your the ******* idiot hodge. I seriously doubt I could gain much more HP from a custom cam, if you know your set-up and know what you want then there are plenty of off the shelf cams that'll do the job. The guy asked for some recommendations for a cam size, not the Oh you need a CUSTOM cam comments. I swear, guess you damn towel heads are ignorant as hell
Originally Posted by slowmofo
Well you must give a damn if you tried to edit your post... too late now as it has been quoted. While I agree with you that this is a tech forum, and rather then argue over whats better, you should just give the guy advise and let him decide what cam he wants to go with But the crap you posted was way out of line...
Yeah I edited my post because it was a little extreme. I did give him advise, it all depends on what he wants. What part of that last post did I tell him what to get? BTW, I don't have a line to cross. I'd give a damn less what any of you think, play with fire you get burned. Simple as that...
Originally Posted by Honda Hunter
I'm a American sailor stationed in the middle east supplying the troops. If that makes me all the harsh things you said then so be it. There are a ton of Arab/Persions who post here so for you to say something so offenssive and out of line is crazy. You dont belong on the internet. You belong in a trailor somewhere. You took everything I said about cams and twisted it to the point that theres no point in having a discussion with you about it because youre to busy arguing with yourself. I feel ashamed as a american that you felt you could post such things. You really need to grow up.
The comments I said weren't directed torwards a group of people, they were for you and you only. I can't figure out what part of that post I made declaring my point would make you call me an idiot and tool. Seems like your the tool, maybe all those gay sailor games ya'll play out there have messed you up. I don't give a **** who I offend, people in general **** me off. Tell you what, I'll let you be the little bitch and have the last word. Fire away, the floor is your's....
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Originally Posted by 98-LS1
Yeah I edited my post because it was a little extreme. I did give him advise, it all depends on what he wants. What part of that last post did I tell him what to get? BTW, I don't have a line to cross. I'd give a damn less what any of you think, play with fire you get burned. Simple as that...
Originally Posted by Honda Hunter
Play with fire and get burned eh? Internet tough guy at his best. Youre a joke.
I'm not playing these internet bad *** games, you got flamed for being a retard and now your crying about it. Go cry me a river sailor boy
Originally Posted by 98-LS1
I'm not playing these internet bad *** games, you got flamed for being a retard and now your crying about it. Go cry me a river sailor boy
You are really looking like an *** now..... You really are that stupid to think what you posted was "flaming someone for being retarded"?