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Old 08-28-2006 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Michigan Skip
Does the Crane box have a 2 step on it?

If I might, can I make a suggestion? I think if you compare boxes you 'll find the the Mallory 685 is the better bang for the buck and I alredy have schematics drawn up for a 685 box wired into a transbrake/linelock,nitrous kit, purge and bottle heater. but you can use the relays to control other things instead. Or I have one drawn up for the MSD 6 box and 2 step.
No, the Crane box does not have it built in. Actually the MSD unit will be more of a bang for the buck for me, as I have connections!

I'm sure I could just substitute the correct wire on your diagram for the Mallory with the correct one out of the MSD... could you post or e-mail it to me?

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Old 08-28-2006 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Camaroholic
Digital 6 does have one built in.

http://www.msdignition.com/pdf/frm23775_6520.pdf

I have a Harlan 2-step in my LS1 car. Love it. Don't have to worry about 'where' you're launching from. When my motor was cam only, I'd just bounce it off the rev limiter and dump the clutch. But since I raised my rev limiter, I typically have the 2-step set to ~6100 to launch (depending on if the track will hold it). Nothin' quite like a 6k+ RPM clutch dump on ET Drags with the nitrous activating when the 2-step disengages.
How did you wire it up so that the nitrous would engage after the 2step would disengage?? I have the msd digi 6 plus and has this 2 step feature.
Old 08-28-2006 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ponyhntr
No, the Crane box does not have it built in. Actually the MSD unit will be more of a bang for the buck for me, as I have connections!

I'm sure I could just substitute the correct wire on your diagram for the Mallory with the correct one out of the MSD... could you post or e-mail it to me?

Thanks!
I'll take a look at the wiring for the Digital 6 and get back to you.
Old 08-28-2006 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevydomination
How did you wire it up so that the nitrous would engage after the 2step would disengage?? I have the msd digi 6 plus and has this 2 step feature.
I can set you up with a circuit that will do just that. PM me for details.
Old 08-28-2006 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Michigan Skip
I can set you up with a circuit that will do just that. PM me for details.
Pm'd you let me know.
Old 08-28-2006 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Shon Herron
That is your choice.
I like the clutch idea but what you going to do during shifts? the clutch pedal will activate the 2 step unless you have a cut off switch....

I would rather have it on a switch, like on the steering wheel or shifter.
Shon, I got that covered. I set them up so that the 2 step only comes in at the line.
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Old 08-28-2006 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas_TA
kinda what it sounds like to me a transbrake for the 6speed guys
Transbrake just holds the trans between 1st and reverse. A 2 step is used to keep the engine at a preset rpm until you launch. then the other half of the 2 step takes over. Most people set the 1st part of the 2 step to a value they launch at, and then the other half takes over which could be the rev limiter.

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Window switch works like this: a device is set to come on at a pre determined rpm and cut off at another predetermined value when activated. The Mallory 685 box has all these built into them, I don't think the MSD Digital 6 does. That's why I said the 685 box is a better bang for the buck. 239 vs 309 at summit
Old 08-30-2006 | 01:37 PM
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Here is what a guy from CZ28.com posted:

Originally Posted by TQdrivenws6
http://www.the12volt.com/relays/page5.asp#mtc

I am going to try this tonight, I am going to set up 2 relays as shown with a momentary SPST as the (-) pulse and then pull off of the clutch switch for the fused +12v.

This way when you get to the line, you push in the clutch, hit the momentary (this activates the 2-step) and as soon as the clutch switch drops the input voltage, it can no longer be activated until both input conditions are met (clutch in and momentary pressed).
I think I'm going to try this, unless someone finds something wrong with it.
Old 08-31-2006 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Michigan Skip
I'll take a look at the wiring for the Digital 6 and get back to you.
Ponyhunter
Digital 6 and the Mallory 685 boxes both get wired the same way, just different colored wires coming out of the boxes. I now have both boxes covered as far as the nitrous coming on after the 2 step kicks out. The 2 step gets held in until the clutch or brake pedal is let up, just like you stated, but I don't think the circuit you linked to would work. Try it and see. If it don't, give me a shout, I know mine does
Old 08-31-2006 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Michigan Skip
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Digital 6 and the Mallory 685 boxes both get wired the same way, just different colored wires coming out of the boxes. I now have both boxes covered as far as the nitrous coming on after the 2 step kicks out. The 2 step gets held in until the clutch or brake pedal is let up, just like you stated, but I don't think the circuit you linked to would work. Try it and see. If it don't, give me a shout, I know mine does
Well, I really just need a simple circuit, as I'm blown and don't need to activate anything after/during the launch like you would need to if you were running nitrous.




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