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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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I got my car to the track this weekend, looking to best my old cam only times. I was hoping for better, but you cant controll the track prep.

Mods include almost every bolton possible, full syspension, QA1s, CC305 cam, TH350 trans with a 4000 stall, and a race weight of 3130.

Last year the car went a best of 11.907 @112 with a 1.602 60ft with a race weight of 3530.

This year the car went 11.706 @ 115 with a 1.637 60ft. This new time is with the race weight of 3130. I was playing with the QA1s all day, and 1.637 was the best I could get. I was hoping for something in the high 1.5s

The track prep was horible yeasterday. It didnt help that over 80% of the cars were on true street tires draging water up to the line, and then tearing up the starting line as they spun for 100+feet.
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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thats quite a light car...still nice times for that size cam and power level. congrats and good luck getting faster next time. track prep usually heads south for regular test and tune nights.
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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really nice numbers, but how did you get so light?
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I basicly spent all last winter trying to find every little bit of weight to take out of the car while still keeping it stock looking. I completly gutted the car taking out every little thing that wasnt being used, then put everything back together. The interior of the car looks almost completly stock. Stock carpet with the backing pulled off, stock seats, center console, dash.

You would be amazed at how much wiring is in these cars. I took at least 50lb worth of wiring, electical tape, wire loom out of the car. For example when taking out the air bags, I tracked down every single wire that had to do with the air bags and cut it out. I did the same thing with abs, traction control, etc.

Front and rear bumper supports are gone, and the front tabs that hold on the bumper are cut out also.

I used the SMJ abs delete kit, along with the low mount alternater setup.

I could go on and on, but the amazing thing is how light I got the car and it still has a stock K member, A-arms, steal hood, breaks, sterio, key less entry, etc.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by foggedz
I got my car to the track this weekend, looking to best my old cam only times. I was hoping for better, but you cant controll the track prep.

Mods include almost every bolton possible, full syspension, QA1s, CC305 cam, TH350 trans with a 4000 stall, and a race weight of 3130.

Last year the car went a best of 11.907 @112 with a 1.602 60ft with a race weight of 3530.

This year the car went 11.706 @ 115 with a 1.637 60ft. This new time is with the race weight of 3130. I was playing with the QA1s all day, and 1.637 was the best I could get. I was hoping for something in the high 1.5s

The track prep was horible yeasterday. It didnt help that over 80% of the cars were on true street tires draging water up to the line, and then tearing up the starting line as they spun for 100+feet.
The new cam actually makes less power than before. With the weight reduction alone you should have knocked off about 4 thenths, you only dropped two, so actually you are 2 tenths slower now than before the cam change. Your original setup with the weight loss you posted would have gone 11.50's.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 01:01 AM
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I still have the CC305 cam! I droped two tenths, but I lost alot in the 60ft. The only difference between the car last year and this was weight reduction. If the car would have 60fted like it should, I have no doubt it could have went 11.5s. The track prep was just horible. Too many cars on true street tires tearing up the line, and not enough VHT.

I went 11.83 with a 1.62 60ft mid summer with 275 17in drag radials on the the car. The car should have went 1.56/7 with 15in prostars with et streets. Ohh well next year im looking to go faster with a much larger cam.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 01:45 AM
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sweet...i have a 4l60-e and a 306 cam with a 3200 stall, cut 1.64 or so and run 12.00 on motor...raceweight of 3350 (still have abs, drivers air bag) imo its still a street car
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Awesome times man, congratz!
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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Here are a few pictures of the inside of the car, as you can see its far from gutted looking. But pretty much everthing "behind the scenes" has been removed or modifyed to remove extra weight.





And a picture from out side the car.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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nice pics
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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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hell yea man. My car is almost the same as ures. Everything gutted. Pulled my dash and gutted everything behind it. Its funny when you open the glove box and theres nothing behind it, lol. I have no a/c, heat, p.s. low mount alt. But i took out my carpet and put down some floor mats, lol. No bumper supports, door bars. I could go no for ever also. Good to see its that light, thats what im going for. Any other tips you did??

Heres my car when i was doing it all:




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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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where abouts do you get the low mount alt kit, and what are the benefits besides cosmetic?
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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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so you took the old cc305 out a put a new one in? i thought you were upgrading?
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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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where abouts do you get the low mount alt kit, and what are the benefits besides cosmetic?
The ALT relo is great if your track only.

Deletes: Power Steering, Air conditiong, and the whole Acc braket for that matter.

Its all about the weight savings.

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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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yea, tony is right. A lot of weight savings. Makes working on it TONS eaiser and makes a bit more power and makes the engine rev faster also. Combine that with a EWP and the engine is basically running its self with no drag on the engine.

As for the bracket, i made it myself.
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hell yea man. My car is almost the same as ures. Everything gutted. Pulled my dash and gutted everything behind it. Its funny when you open the glove box and theres nothing behind it, lol. I have no a/c, heat, p.s. low mount alt. But i took out my carpet and put down some floor mats, lol. No bumper supports, door bars. I could go no for ever also. Good to see its that light, thats what im going for. Any other tips you did??
Yeah, I have seen different pics that you have posted of your car and thought they looked like twins. There were so many little 1-2lb things that I took out of the car. They seem like nothing at the time, but it adds up fast. A few things that I didnt mention.

For the sterio, I took out all the speakers, and installed one nice speaker in the factory speaker location just behind the drivers seat. I ran new wires for the speaker, and cut out all other wires for the other speakers. Sounds just as good as factory, with 1/4 the weight.

I cut out the supports under the front fenders. You can search in the Drag tech section for examples and pictures from others.

I also lightened the radiator support.

If you take the door panels apart, there is backing/foam that can be removed.

The big bracket that the dash bolts to can be lightened. I cut out different parts that nothing bolted to it.

The brakets that the back seats bolt to were be taken out. They need to be drilled out, and its not fun.

Im sure there are plenty of others. I used to take a plastic bag with me everytime I worked on the car and filled it up with the little stuff I removed. I would have 10-15 lb in the bag most of the time when I was done for the day.
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Originally Posted by ReD95LT1
so you took the old cc305 out a put a new one in? i thought you were upgrading?

This topic is months old, and was brought back from the dead. Im puting a custom grind in my car that will be simmilar to the GM847 cam.
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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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I hear ya there. When we took the foam off my buddys carpet it seemed pointless. When you pull a handfull off it weighs nothing. But when we were done it was 12lbs. So i know what your talking bout. Im in the process of doing a cam only car too. Just got a good valvetrain and milled the heads to bump the compression a bit. Then gettin a custom ground cam for it. Hopin to get in the low 11 sec. range.
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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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Sounds like fun. Im putting in a larger cam, along with beehive springs, and supporting valvetrain parts. Im from Rockford IL, so maybe next summer we can meet up for a cam only LT1 race.
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oh hell yea, ure bout a hour and a half from me. I got beehive springs, hardened pushrods and **** like that. This summer its gonna be runnin on nitrous due to lack of funds. Cam comming this up comming winter. You go to any of the RSD's?
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