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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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Gentlemen,
I had a good day at the track today and I thought I would share the news.

1.64 60, 7.25 @ 96.34, 11.32 @ 120.83
1.55 60, 7.13 @ 96.01, 11.23 @ 119.85
1.54 60, 7.11 @ 96.54, 11.18 @ 120.63

3550 raceweight, 255/50/16 M/T DR's at 18 psi.

Da House of Hook was HOOKING!

Dean
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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I'll say you had a good day! I can't get over those 60' times on 255 tires. You obviously have a great combination--motor and suspension. Nice numbers, man.
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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Thanks Dave. I ran my front Hal's at #1 setting so the front end was really flying up at launch, so much that the tires were a few inches in the air. Never done that before but I think I like it!

I'm thinking a 3500 stall, 4.10 gear and some 325/50/15 M/T DR's might get me some 1.4 60's and a shot at 10.99.

This is with a motor that pulls 13 inches of vacuum at 850 rpm and I drive 65 miles one way to the track. You don't need a big *** cam to run hard, just ask ABBA383.

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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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what intake do you use with the LT4 heads .
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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I'm using a LT-4 intake ported by Lloyd Elliot. I got it from Scoggin Dickey for $220 before they ran out.
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 11:42 PM
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Really good times . If you can get a few hundred more pounds of the car that will be 10's. Where are you shifting at with your setup 6500???
I guess those LT4 LE heads are working I happen to have a pair as well that are on the bench at home for my 383. Are you running the LE2 cam?? My buddy is about to install one in his 355 and we are wondering how the car is going to react to it (By looking at it, it appears it would not be tame if you know what I mean).
How do you like the Th400 2.48 First gear with the 3:73's, makes me wonder if it would run a 10 with a 4L60E since the 1st gear in the 60E would hit harder. But God knows it can't take the abuse the Th400 can.

Any way congrats and NICE MPH for the Weight and the rest of the mods.
Its good to see someone UTILIZING an LE combo with good track prep. Tired of seeing people cut 2.2 60's and wonder why they are running 12.5 in there 3850 lb car, lol.
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 11:46 PM
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Nice times!
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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Wow an LT-4 setup working great. Where are the LT-4 haters
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Man, I would leave that combo alone. I had a 3500 stall when I had my 4L80E and it was a bit too much for the street for me. I know other people run them and are fine, but that is just my opinion. With a 4.10 gear, what rpm would you be turning at the end of the 1/4? If you have to get into the 10's, I say spray it. Good luck.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 08:05 AM
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I shift around 6400-6500.

Loosing 200 lbs and .05 on my 60ft should get a 10.9x
Weight reduction is the smart way to go. It makes you faster and is easier on parts.

The LE3 LT4 heads are really working well. They are the cornerstone of this motor.

I think my cam is slightly smaller than the LE2 with 230 @ .050

After toasting 4 4l60e's I learned to like the TH400's 2.48.

One year ago I was running 12.0's at 113 with this same longblock. I changed exhaust, tires, tune, some weight reduction, and added EWP, Spohn torque arm, and Strange 12-bolt. I also corrected an intake manifold port mismatch which I think helped.

If I went 4.10 I would need to increase the rear tire diameter which would help the launch.

Spraying is not on the table right now.

This is not a DD. It's my weekend playtoy.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CNC Stew
Thanks Dave. I ran my front Hal's at #1 setting so the front end was really flying up at launch, so much that the tires were a few inches in the air. Never done that before but I think I like it!

I'm thinking a 3500 stall, 4.10 gear and some 325/50/15 M/T DR's might get me some 1.4 60's and a shot at 10.99.

This is with a motor that pulls 13 inches of vacuum at 850 rpm and I drive 65 miles one way to the track. You don't need a big *** cam to run hard, just ask ABBA383.

Dean
Thats absolutely awesome!! Nope, you and I have shown that you don't need a large-by-huge cam in there (I'm 226/234!)...I have been contemplating the QA1s to replace my stock stuff, going to a true dual system, and looking at the 4.10s and the 325s...Have a local guy who does a "mini-mini" tub in the rear section to allow those big tires...and lower 60's...

Did you notice or pick up anything with true duals? I like the idea of 2 3" pipes over my Borla cat back...

Anyway, congrats, you'll hit the 10s soon...Going with 4.10s now may even do it...with a 26" tire you should cross at around 6300 with 4.10s...We are both going across now at 5900-6000...

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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 08:59 AM
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Must be nice. I see 10's in your future with ease. Great setup and good luck.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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Sup Alan.

Get the QA1's with the front springs too. They work. But they drop the front end too much. My spanner nut is wayyy high on the shock and I use .5 " shock spacers also.

Do the 3" duals with an X. It will help Especially with a bigger cam.

Do the 4.10 and 325's and tell me how you like it.

I would rather give up some high gear rpm to gain some tire diameter to handle a harder launch. 60 ft is where its at.

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Hey Dean, I'm going to do it in stages...I'm doing the exhaust first, hopefully before the year is out...Then see what it does...then the suspension, then the gears...

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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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Be prepared for very little ground clearance if you X your 3" in the center of the car like I did. If you offset it to the pass side you gain much clearance but then you are limited to bullets because the pipes are running so close together on the same side.
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Dean, Good times! Your right in there with Alan for the small cam 383 running!


Originally Posted by T/A KID
My buddy is about to install one in his 355 and we are wondering how the car is going to react to it (By looking at it, it appears it would not be tame if you know what I mean).
Ben, what did I tell you about thinking about cam specs!!!!! Just leave them alone and see how they run, cause that's all that matters anyways.


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Its good to see someone UTILIZING an LE combo with good track prep. Tired of seeing people cut 2.2 60's and wonder why they are running 12.5 in there 3850 lb car, lol.
Ditto.... Lot more than just throwing a motor into a car gets this done.

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Originally Posted by CNC Stew
Be prepared for very little ground clearance if you X your 3" in the center of the car like I did. If you offset it to the pass side you gain much clearance but then you are limited to bullets because the pipes are running so close together on the same side.
No worries...We have a local guy who runs the X thru the Spohn TA mount cross bar and tucks them up nice...All custom with Edelbrock 304s...Guys are running deep 9s with that set up with great ground clearance...

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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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Thanks Bret.

I just stayed after it trying to get the combo sorted out and its finally paying off. I don't think there's a whole lot left in it cause raceday was perfect weather.
I'll try to get the 2 tenths without touching the motor. It's really running too sweet to change for the moment but you know hotrodders!

Alan, that exhaust setup sounds trick. I'd like to see it when it's finished.
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Yeah, I wouldn't touch that motor! Drop some weight, add gear/tire, say a prayer, face east, whatever, but I'd lock the hood shut! Gotta make Georgia and Baltimore a little closer...I'd like to see your car...I'll let you know how the exhaust goes...I just hope I gain something or the wife will commit multiple felonies on me..(and not the goooood kind)...

--Alan
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what kind of numbers are you making? the times sound good just a little lower than i thought you would see out of LE3's. and im assuming that you're talking about CAM in durham,nc. im not ******* on CAM but i would say that if you want to go more aggressive on the tune that you could squeeze some more out of it. from everything im putting together and everyone ive talked to i should be going low 11s on LE2s and a 383. just my thoughts though.
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