1.6 RR worth it?
Originally Posted by 94CamaroZ28SS
is it worth it to buy the 1.6 RR? what kinda HP incease can you get? current mods below.
Realistically it'll squeeze another 5-10 rwhp out of the car. Granted, nothing to call home about -- but not bad either. Buy some quality pieces, and you can continue to use them when you purchase a cam later on down the road
Also -- I'd suggest a quality dynotune to replace the Hypertech. You'll be extremely happy with the results of both of those changes done to your car.
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Stock LT1 cam.... 205/207 117LSA
Valve lift with 1.5's -- .447 intake / .457 exhaust
Valve lift with 1.6's -- .476 intake / .489 exhaust
Unless your getting it cheap somehow, I'm not sure its the best bang for your buck. Should change all the little parts while your in there as well ($$$). I'm looking to do the same with mine (goto 1.6's) but, holding out for now...
Valve lift with 1.5's -- .447 intake / .457 exhaust
Valve lift with 1.6's -- .476 intake / .489 exhaust
Unless your getting it cheap somehow, I'm not sure its the best bang for your buck. Should change all the little parts while your in there as well ($$$). I'm looking to do the same with mine (goto 1.6's) but, holding out for now...
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the best bang-for-the-buck with your setup right now is gonna be a gear swap get rid of that 2.73 ,and stick a 3.73 in there... best thing you could do to that car..
think about it, even if YOU install the RR, and have someone else setup the R&P, you're still looking at roughly the same price. or hell, have a "shop" install both, and see which would be better then.
$180 bucks will buy you a ring and pinion, roughly $150 to install... that's the same price as a set of good rockers (self-aligning 1.6's) and you'll get a WHOLE lot more out of the gear...
personally, I wouldn't waste my cash on rockers until you get a gear. you won't be dissapointed!
think about it, even if YOU install the RR, and have someone else setup the R&P, you're still looking at roughly the same price. or hell, have a "shop" install both, and see which would be better then.
$180 bucks will buy you a ring and pinion, roughly $150 to install... that's the same price as a set of good rockers (self-aligning 1.6's) and you'll get a WHOLE lot more out of the gear...
personally, I wouldn't waste my cash on rockers until you get a gear. you won't be dissapointed!
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I'll secong that..
I got it all done at once (Gears cause of the new Posi, Cam and 1.6 RR's), so I can't really give you a definate answer on the gains that you might notice, but it was a different beast..
I got it all done at once (Gears cause of the new Posi, Cam and 1.6 RR's), so I can't really give you a definate answer on the gains that you might notice, but it was a different beast..
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I guess I'll throw in my .02...
To answer the questions asked:
Yes, it's worth it...
The horsepower increase will be, more...
I agree with a few people above that there are other parts that might help more, but when weighed against each other it depends on what you want out of your car and what your budget is...
My setup, in my sig, prior to the headers, exhaust, and 1.6 rockers was running a best of low 13's @ 104.3x and in the summer couldn't get below 13.35x @ 103.0xx.
I had a converter but no exhaust work at all, and dyno'd at close to what you do now. In adding the exhaust and 1.6 rockers I picked up ~ .5 from my previous best. It looks like you have exhaust work, so I would think you would beneifit nicely from rockers, but you will also benefit from a good converter too bad doing the converter is 2-3 X's the cost of doing rockers, spriings, and all that...
As for power gained, I upped my MPH by about 2-3 debending on the run, and haven't been to the dyno lately, though I think it should be up at least 20-25+ HP, but remember this is with me adding headers, exhaust, and the rockers...
So, from there the choice is yours...
To answer the questions asked:
Yes, it's worth it...
The horsepower increase will be, more...
I agree with a few people above that there are other parts that might help more, but when weighed against each other it depends on what you want out of your car and what your budget is...
My setup, in my sig, prior to the headers, exhaust, and 1.6 rockers was running a best of low 13's @ 104.3x and in the summer couldn't get below 13.35x @ 103.0xx.
I had a converter but no exhaust work at all, and dyno'd at close to what you do now. In adding the exhaust and 1.6 rockers I picked up ~ .5 from my previous best. It looks like you have exhaust work, so I would think you would beneifit nicely from rockers, but you will also benefit from a good converter too bad doing the converter is 2-3 X's the cost of doing rockers, spriings, and all that...
As for power gained, I upped my MPH by about 2-3 debending on the run, and haven't been to the dyno lately, though I think it should be up at least 20-25+ HP, but remember this is with me adding headers, exhaust, and the rockers...
So, from there the choice is yours...
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Originally Posted by BizZzatch350
Best mod he could do is a converter, easy .5 tenths.
Originally Posted by 1SlowFormula
Did you actually pick up .5 from a converter??? I only picked up about .2 or so, but then again this could have to do with the 2.73 gears...
Yea, with the Vigi 3200, changed the car.
Originally Posted by Ls1Bait
Definatly a stall.
Night and Day
Night and Day
I daily drove it for a while, got the stall summer 03 and daily drove till summer 04 when I got the Blazer. Never had any issues, car always drove fine, even in super heavy traffic, even still has the stock 3.23s. I bought mine used for $400, I just dont see any other mods other than nitrous that yeild those kinda gains.
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well sounds like everyone has different opinions.....i was think of doing all the mods everyone listed above, Stall , 1.6 RR, and gears, and maybe the dyno tune, wonder what i would be pushing to the wheels then? any ideas?
Originally Posted by lt197formula
Another vote for 1.6rrs, and another easy way to get the lift with 1.6s is divide the cams lift by the stock rocker ratio (1.5) then multiply it by 1.6
