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LT1 What cam? I just want the damn thing to lope as hard as it can.

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Old 01-04-2007, 08:55 AM
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The 306 revs to like 6800 not even close to 5800! Your not researching if you think the 306 is daily drivable because it is a huge cam. And Brettinator is just trying to help because custom will get you exactly what you want. They can combine LSA and duration and lift to get the powerband and choppy idle you want.
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lol @ revving a cc306 to only 6k rpm.
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Originally Posted by WONCAMARO
I'm not going to spend a ton of money on a custom cam for a barely custom car. It's not heads up car or even bracket. Just a toy. I want it to sound great. And yes, I have been researching. That's what this is. I called comp, learned more about lobe seperation and lift. I think the cc306 may work cause I noticed it operates between 1800 and 5800 rpm. I shift at six, so the cam will operate on my powerband. I just want to know if it will work with my computer is I send it in the be programmed. See there--- research. Quit acting like your **** is better than everyone else's just cause we are trying to learn. You are on a running your car on a different level than I am. I am just simply wanting a good sounding, nice running street car. 1 question------ cc306 on stock pcm reprogram or not?
Calm down there slappy, was just wanting you to get a good match for your car bud & the last thing I think is "my ****" is better than anyone elses, it's a heap actually I should sell it really. But anyway if this is research for you then cool man, I overlooked your call to Comp and recommend you call around some more, Crane, Cam Motions, etc. The 306 is definitely a good off the shelf cam and yes your pcm can and will have to be retuned for it. If you are a high mileage car though the 306, GM 847 and a few other moderate sized cams can cause premature engine failure. Check your cam bearings best you can in the car prior install, but at that point it's really too late because you won't re-stabb the stocker back in if you find excessive cam bearing wear.
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I read about the cam on summitracing.com. Comp cc306 was said to have a powerband between 1800 and 5800. Thus, looks like more research is not paying off correctly. I will keep trying although. I really do appreciate all the feedback from everyone here. I appologise for grumpiness. As the cam shopping game goes although, facts and opinions often get mixed. I got it. cc 306 is only a good idea if I built a bottom end intended to hold higher revs correct. A 503 will work better with my stock setup, but a custom may help me aquire a better lope with the more appropriate level of performance and powerband. I will let this be the final word from which many opinions have been weighed? Appreciate it guys.
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Call me retarded, but isn't the rev limiter at 5700?
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I went with the 847 cam, with the idle set @ 800 rpms it had a awsome lope it scared alot of people away from a race because of it's sound!! but unfortunally it wasent practical for a stock short block, I say that because i became a victim of a spun rod bearing from spinning the motor up to 6800 rpms much like the cc306 requires you to do they make great power with stock heads but won't last spinning the motor up in that rpm range. I recommend a smaller cam something like in the 230's duration and with a 112Lsa so you can have the sound you want, achieve decent power & have the combo last for longer then 1yr & 8 track runs.
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Originally Posted by SmokedOutZ28
I went with the 847 cam, with the idle set @ 800 rpms it had a awsome lope it scared alot of people away from a race because of it's sound!! but unfortunally it wasent practical for a stock short block, I say that because i became a victim of a spun rod bearing from spinning the motor up to 6800 rpms much like the cc306 requires you to do they make great power with stock heads but won't last spinning the motor up in that rpm range. I recommend a smaller cam something like in the 230's duration and with a 112Lsa so you can have the sound you want, achieve decent power & have the combo last for longer then 1yr & 8 track runs.
Think you and I spoke before, perhaps about the hoods but I can say "been there done that", about 3-1/2 yrs ago installed the 847 cam, spun a rod bearing, had 86k on the car, lasted 2 hours though, had a blast in those 2 hours and I was just breaking it in normal
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Car shifts at 6 grand on the juice without hitting rev limit so I really don't know what the limit should be.
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Originally Posted by BRETTINATOR
Think you and I spoke before, perhaps about the hoods but I can say "been there done that", about 3-1/2 yrs ago installed the 847 cam, spun a rod bearing, had 86k on the car, lasted 2 hours though, had a blast in those 2 hours and I was just breaking it in normal
Yes, We have also talked about your motor setup.. But yes the car was a blast to drive around even my girlfriend managed to do it with no issues. I was hoping it would last longer because it only has 60k miles and didn't see the track that often & got hit with the juice twice but i guess not! Anyway that was the past Im building a 396 right now to take it's place by this summer hopefully with power like yours, but im having a hard time when it comes to deciding on what heads and whos going to design the cam. last decision was Brodix heads converted to reverse cooling with a custom solid roller but as usual it might change because IMO theres no room for dissapointment in this new setup.

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Originally Posted by WONCAMARO
Car shifts at 6 grand on the juice without hitting rev limit so I really don't know what the limit should be.
if your looking at the stock tach it's roughly 200 rpms off so 6k on the tach would be 5800.
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If your looking at the cc503 I just installed that in my car. Here is a quick clip of it:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-modifications/627253-cc503-vid-cold-start.html

This is at the stock 800rpm idle through Mac mids, cat, and Magnaflow catback. Next week I'm going to post another vid because tomorrow I'm gonna lower my idle to 700rpm and get my cat cut out so it should lope harder and then you can see if that what you like and it could possibly answer alot of your questions.
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Thanks for the sound clip. Sounds great. Let me know when the 700rpm idle tune sound clip is up.



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