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Old 01-27-2007, 02:58 PM
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i only use traction control on the highway when its a little wet out or really cold. like yesterday bunch of local guys went on a cruize i went with we did different mph rolls every single roll my car spun. i get scared wen my car spins wen its a little wet out . i seen a friend wreck a ss in front of me bc he was spinning at 60 and finally got grip and the whole car spun around. i got use to every single time i get in the car i turn the car and turn off the traction so it doenst really bother me but ya i agree looks stupid in the engine bay
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your traction control should be taking your foot of the gas, or modulating it with proper counter steer.
Old 01-28-2007, 10:06 AM
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I have a 94 so I never had ASR, but I would have taken it out if it was there. I drive fine in FL rain. I don't think Fbodies really need it, some stories I've been hearing from C5 vette guys though, seems they really love it.
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exactly. I would just turn it off but I hate the sensor that comes up on the gauges when I turn it off. If there was a way to get that to not light up, thatd be best.
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Originally Posted by goodrich969
exactly. I would just turn it off but I hate the sensor that comes up on the gauges when I turn it off. If there was a way to get that to not light up, thatd be best.
I think it's on the Plugs that are under the Glove Box that go to the Harness. I found it when I was building a Harness to go in the Car. I don't have my notes here at work , I'll make a post when I get home tomorrow.
Old 01-28-2007, 05:12 PM
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thanks alot merv.. thatll help alot
Old 01-28-2007, 06:24 PM
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TCS is for people who cant drive. It was nothing but a danger to me.Also cost me my car a few times.
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Just looked it up on a website where I pulled the Info..it's on the LS1 Harness, not this Harness. For the LT1 Car, it's a wire behind the Dash Gauges..probably a pain to get to. I have my Air Bags dis-connected, and that light is always on.
Old 01-28-2007, 06:36 PM
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okay... thanks anyways though!
Old 01-29-2007, 02:10 PM
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Default Line Locks! That's why!

Originally Posted by goodrich969
My question is, why do people take out there traction control.
To put in the Line Locks!
To get rid of that great big brick of steel on the driver's side, near the fuse box.
To save weight.
To allow me to get a cheaper 12 bolt / 9 inch (w/o 3 channel ABS) when I break my third 10 bolt.

That's about it,

MIKE
Old 01-29-2007, 02:31 PM
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excuse my question, what is ASR? And is the ABS system linked to the traction controll system? Or are they seperate...
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bump...
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Originally Posted by great421
To put in the Line Locks!
To get rid of that great big brick of steel on the driver's side, near the fuse box.
To save weight.
To allow me to get a cheaper 12 bolt / 9 inch (w/o 3 channel ABS) when I break my third 10 bolt.

That's about it,

MIKE
Your a little off here, your refering to the ABS system, not the TCS/ASR (traction control) that this thread is about...
Old 02-02-2007, 09:52 AM
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I thought putting in a line lock requires TCS to be removed..
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Originally Posted by A-man930
excuse my question, what is ASR? And is the ABS system linked to the traction controll system? Or are they seperate...
ASR (Acceleration Slip Regulation or Anti-Slip Regulation depending on where you read) is what it's called in the Camaro's and TCS (Traction Control System) is what it is in the Firebird's.

GM states that there is a link between the ASR/TCS system and the ABS as far as operation, hence the reason for the seperate rear brake line on ASR/TCS cars, it modulates the ignition timing and applys the brakes slightly to the wheel it feels is slipping. As far as removal is concerened however there is no dependancy, you can remove the TCS/ASR and the ABS still works, at least mind does. Not sure of the other way around though...

Last edited by 1SlowFormula; 02-02-2007 at 10:03 AM. Reason: update the meaning of ASR
Old 02-02-2007, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ZFan88
I thought putting in a line lock requires TCS to be removed..
No you can have line lock on a ASR/TCS car because all the line lock does is lock the front brakes when engaged, but if your using a line lock then you are probably doing a burnout or staging a manual trans car for a race, then you'd have the ASR/TCS turned off anyway right??? But either way the 2 can work together, but you wouldn't ever do it...
Old 02-02-2007, 10:11 AM
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BTW, for the original poster...

I removed mine for few reasons.
1) I turned it off everytime I started the car anyway because it sucks when it cut in and took conrtol from you when there are better way to recover from a slip situation. I meesed up my driving style a few times adn almost caused more accidents that prevented, so i kept it off...
2) Part of the system went out and it automatically defaulted to never turning on, no biggy for me though, I now didn't have to hit the button to turn it off everytime I got in the car...
3) When doing headers and RR install I took it off the VC and realised there was no reason to put it back on, it cleared up the VC's and made adjusting the RR's later sooo much easier, and it saved me some weigth too...
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Traction Control in an FBody was a stupid engineering idea. Seriously, what was the point when 99% of owners want it off 99% of the time? I had TCS on my 95 T/A and everytime I opened the hood that damn box always got on my nerves!

TCS Box
Old 02-02-2007, 05:37 PM
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Well I cant find a write up or anything. So what is the easiest way to get it done.
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One of the best writeups out there was linked to on the first page of responces...


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