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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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I would say its either his car having issues or driving needs to be worked on.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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Back to the original post, that sixty is horrible, with just a 2.0 that car should be some where in the high 8s
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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just get some good tires, the MT/ET streets would help alot.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by big dave
YOU, MY FRIEND, ARE AN IDIOT!!! No where in Alan's post did it appear he was trying to be a smart ***. Why can't this be kept civil.
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Alan - Sorry. I honestly thought you were trying to a smart ***. I apologize.

looks like he made a mistake, noticed it, maned up and apologized. preach civillty, then call him an idiot




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Originally Posted by goodrich969
I would say its either his car having issues or driving needs to be worked on.
i would agree that both problems contributed to the time you got. like it was mentioned before, go more and practice, you will improve a great deal.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Nate81Camaro
Matty - I now see he has a 96 Green Z. For future reference, whats a good time/trap speed for the 1/8th (in a stock LS1)
Same as an LT1... about 80mph.

The one guy telling you to do a big burnout is way off... listen to whoever said to just clean off your tires.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mattybz28
Same as an LT1... about 80mph.

The one guy telling you to do a big burnout is way off... listen to whoever said to just clean off your tires.

I'm just relaying what works for me. I can't get the car to hook without doing a decent burnout. Trust me, I have over 200 passes on the car over the last 4 years at the moment, and it will not hook any other way. Do I have suspension issues, most likely. Do I need a set of drag tires, You bet. I'm making do with what I happen to have.

Now, if he is the same person I saw at Perris in SoCal, he needs to work on his burnout. He needs to get out of the middle of the waterbox with the street tires, which only throws water into the wheelwell, which then drips down onto the tire as he stages, and either roll all the way through or at least to the front edge of the water before doing his burnout.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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^^ What kind of tires are you running? Maybe time for better/wider tires? A mere heatup is all that is needed for street tires..

btw onephatZ28 funny signature. Not sure how long it will last due to the fact it violates size rules
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by grnmonster
So my first time ever racing goes as follows(1/8) best time

10.199
reaction:1.36
60ft:2.642



nothing to be proud of but it was fun, but i dont think my car is running right it idols a little bit rough and does not feel as fast as it used to im thinkin new spark plugs and wires
I have a 97 lt1 with slighty less mods than it looks like you have on your signature. That 60 ft is definately something to work on but something doesnt seem right with the trap speed just as everyone has been saying... ive only ran mine a few times and had a 9.0267 at 77.5 with a 1.98 60'. The wider tires helped the 60 a little, but im no expert, ive only made 10 or so passes at most, but 0.6 is a big difference. Having a trap speed at 72 is definately a problem. It may be time for new plugs and wires as you said...just got done replacing my opti and wires today, you'll need a beer or six to keep you from wanting to blow the thing up, thats for sure...
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NovaTodd
I'm just relaying what works for me. I can't get the car to hook without doing a decent burnout. Trust me, I have over 200 passes on the car over the last 4 years at the moment, and it will not hook any other way. Do I have suspension issues, most likely. Do I need a set of drag tires, You bet. I'm making do with what I happen to have.

Now, if he is the same person I saw at Perris in SoCal, he needs to work on his burnout. He needs to get out of the middle of the waterbox with the street tires, which only throws water into the wheelwell, which then drips down onto the tire as he stages, and either roll all the way through or at least to the front edge of the water before doing his burnout.


yup that was me...do u have the other green z28?
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 02:27 AM
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I said I was sorry! Please!, don't get me banned

Are we cool now?

Well, now I know what he's running in the 1/4. That gives me a much better understanding on how his cars running/how he's driving it. I've re-read the entire thread, and see he's running a 10.119, RT of 1.36, 2.642 60ft.
I'm not trying to make the kid feel bad or anything. Hell, it takes time to learn your car, and what it takes to make a good pass. My first time to the track was in a 92 Grand Marquis (my mom's car ). I had a 1.5XX RT, and a guy I worked with was there. He's the one who told me to "go when the last yellow is on". I remember going there because I wanted to do a big burnout (like John Force). Mission Accomplished!! I ran a 16.9XX at 81mph, and I'll never forget it.
The first 60 ft are the most important thing in a race. My advice to grnmonster:
Take Alan's advice. (guess I should've stopped and thought of it, but I was too busy having a thread war). Work on your launching, seeing what you car likes & doesn't like. Don't worry about the tree (for now). Get your launch down. That's why you'll see quite a few guys in vids all over the internet sitting at the tree for as much as 5 seconds after the bulb has been green. Once you get your launch down, then you can start worrying about other things (like RT's )
It's extremely important you have fun....that's what draggin (or anything to do with a car, for that matter) is all about.


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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Nate81Camaro
I said I was sorry! Please!, don't get me banned

Are we cool now?

Well, now I know what he's running in the 1/4. That gives me a much better understanding on how his cars running/how he's driving it. I've re-read the entire thread, and see he's running a 10.119, RT of 1.36, 2.642 60ft.
I'm not trying to make the kid feel bad or anything. Hell, it takes time to learn your car, and what it takes to make a good pass. My first time to the track was in a 92 Grand Marquis (my mom's car ). I had a 1.5XX RT, and a guy I worked with was there. He's the one who told me to "go when the last yellow is on". I remember going there because I wanted to do a big burnout (like John Force). Mission Accomplished!! I ran a 16.9XX at 81mph, and I'll never forget it.
The first 60 ft are the most important thing in a race. My advice to grnmonster:
Take Alan's advice. (guess I should've stopped and thought of it, but I was too busy having a thread war). Work on your launching, seeing what you car likes & doesn't like. Don't worry about the tree (for now). Get your launch down. That's why you'll see quite a few guys in vids all over the internet sitting at the tree for as much as 5 seconds after the bulb has been green. Once you get your launch down, then you can start worrying about other things (like RT's )
It's extremely important you have fun....that's what draggin (or anything to do with a car, for that matter) is all about.


-Nate


thanks for the advice, my main problem was the car itself it not running very well at all, ...needs new o2 sensors then my times should be down
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 02:53 AM
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Cool. Once you get new O2 sensors, let us know how your next run goes.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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Don't heat up your street tires, the hotter they become the more greasey they will become which is not good for traction. If you can just go around the water box if possible and then just spin them over to get debris off the tires. I do advise on getting some drag radials if you want traction. I prefer M/T's over any other brand.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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If you haven't done a full tuneup on the car in a while -- that wouldn't hurt either.

Plugs, wires, O2s, fuel filter, oil change. Check your tire pressures and make sure everything else with the car feels alright.

You can't take a car that's not even running correctly to the track and put your arms up wondering why it isn't running fast enough. Get that taken care of and then go from there -- make a couple mid-range RPM pulls and see how it behaves. Go on a 30+ mile drive and see how it behaves on your way back at different RPMs.

Edit: And please take everyone else's advice. If you're running street tires go around the water box as much as you can. I know it can't be avoided completely -- but all it is doing is dragging water down the track for everyone else who is going to be running after you. Just spin your tires quickly to clean any dirt/debris off, nothing more. Lay into it, don't just stomp and it and wonder why you're not going anywhere. It takes practice and a little bit of finesse.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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I apologize for not reading through the entire post. I just found the response unnecessary and I guess it just struck a nerve. I see that he apologized and I am doing the same. I just see alot of bashing going on on this board when a simple response would do wonders. Afterall, if everyone here had the same level of expertise, we wouldn't need each other...
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Nate81Camaro
The first 60 ft are the most important thing in a race. My advice to grnmonster:
Take Alan's advice. (guess I should've stopped and thought of it, but I was too busy having a thread war). Work on your launching, seeing what you car likes & doesn't like. Don't worry about the tree (for now). Get your launch down. That's why you'll see quite a few guys in vids all over the internet sitting at the tree for as much as 5 seconds after the bulb has been green. Once you get your launch down, then you can start worrying about other things (like RT's )
It's extremely important you have fun....that's what draggin (or anything to do with a car, for that matter) is all about.-Nate
I absolutely agree. One of the mistakes made when first starting out is trying to beat your opponent. Don't worry about them, concentrate on improving your skills. While the tree will become important later, work on the first 60 feet. Everything else will follow; trap speed and 1/8 times.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nate81Camaro
I said I was sorry! Please!, don't get me banned

Are we cool now?

Well, now I know what he's running in the 1/4. That gives me a much better understanding on how his cars running/how he's driving it. I've re-read the entire thread, and see he's running a 10.119, RT of 1.36, 2.642 60ft.
I'm not trying to make the kid feel bad or anything. Hell, it takes time to learn your car, and what it takes to make a good pass. My first time to the track was in a 92 Grand Marquis (my mom's car ). I had a 1.5XX RT, and a guy I worked with was there. He's the one who told me to "go when the last yellow is on". I remember going there because I wanted to do a big burnout (like John Force). Mission Accomplished!! I ran a 16.9XX at 81mph, and I'll never forget it.
The first 60 ft are the most important thing in a race. My advice to grnmonster:
Take Alan's advice. (guess I should've stopped and thought of it, but I was too busy having a thread war). Work on your launching, seeing what you car likes & doesn't like. Don't worry about the tree (for now). Get your launch down. That's why you'll see quite a few guys in vids all over the internet sitting at the tree for as much as 5 seconds after the bulb has been green. Once you get your launch down, then you can start worrying about other things (like RT's )
It's extremely important you have fun....that's what draggin (or anything to do with a car, for that matter) is all about.


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Originally Posted by big dave
I apologize for not reading through the entire post. I just found the response unnecessary and I guess it just struck a nerve. I see that he apologized and I am doing the same. I just see alot of bashing going on on this board when a simple response would do wonders. Afterall, if everyone here had the same level of expertise, we wouldn't need each other...
....and you a beer, too... Its nice having an ol SS, MD peep on here

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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by grnmonster
yup that was me...do u have the other green z28?
Yes, I have the other one that was out there. I wish you would have said something about the SES light, as I keep my code reader in the car (it seems to be the only place I need it ) We could have scanned it in less than 5 minutes and pointed you in the right direction for getting running right. If you live close to Riverside or are anywhere near Vernon during the week, I'll check the codes for you. Just give me a couple of days notice to make sure I have scanner with me.

The guys on here are correct that a set of drag radials will help the 60' time. If I could afford them at the moment, they would be on the car. My street tires are hard as rocks - just to give you an idea, they were new when I got the car and with 200+ passes, they are still over half tread and have never been rotated

The other thing is that Perris does not do the best of prep and the track does not get alot of heat put into it by all the street cars that run out there. If I cut anything under a 2.1 out there, I'm happy. I also tend to drive the guy at the waterbox nuts as I know where I want to put the car ALOT better than he does - comes up to me almost every time to check
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NovaTodd
Yes, I have the other one that was out there. I wish you would have said something about the SES light, as I keep my code reader in the car (it seems to be the only place I need it ) We could have scanned it in less than 5 minutes and pointed you in the right direction for getting running right. If you live close to Riverside or are anywhere near Vernon during the week, I'll check the codes for you. Just give me a couple of days notice to make sure I have scanner with me.

The guys on here are correct that a set of drag radials will help the 60' time. If I could afford them at the moment, they would be on the car. My street tires are hard as rocks - just to give you an idea, they were new when I got the car and with 200+ passes, they are still over half tread and have never been rotated

The other thing is that Perris does not do the best of prep and the track does not get alot of heat put into it by all the street cars that run out there. If I cut anything under a 2.1 out there, I'm happy. I also tend to drive the guy at the waterbox nuts as I know where I want to put the car ALOT better than he does - comes up to me almost every time to check


dang i really wish i knew you had a scanner that would have been easy enough!! hey but thanks fo the advice, are you gonna be out there next friday?
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