new mustangs
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From: Holland Twp/Milford, New Jersey
really? off the line they aren't too much trouble. before, when i just had exhaust, they didn't give me any trouble...
similar to LS1s? 320hp from the GT isn't equal to an LS1's approx. 350+. LT1s run mid 13's stock.... for all the GTs that had been against me at the track, i've reeled in each and every one, well, except for one that was spraying lol.
Originally Posted by Mattybz28
You guys are either talking out of your asses or just witnesses to some very unfortunate driving.
The gt500 is a low-mid 12 second capable car stock with some drag radials.
The new GT is similar in power to ls1 cars and will run mid 13's stock.
The gt500 is a low-mid 12 second capable car stock with some drag radials.
The new GT is similar in power to ls1 cars and will run mid 13's stock.
ford=gay unless ur drivin an 03-04.... the new ones are slow as **** i saw one(m5) with lt's 4.10s exhaust/and some suspesion and tranny work do a 8.5 in the 1/8th mile stock there more like 8.9's-9.0's i give this kid a hard time all the time about his gt.....
TECH Apprentice
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From: Charleston, SC
Originally Posted by sdm1234
similar to LS1s? 320hp from the GT isn't equal to an LS1's approx. 350+. LT1s run mid 13's stock.... for all the GTs that had been against me at the track, i've reeled in each and every one, well, except for one that was spraying lol.
First off, here's the fastest gt500. http://www.sctflash.com/gt500.php
"500RWHP & 502RWTQ! Not bad for a stock vehicle with JUST a custom tune and Cold Air Intake Kit!"
went 11.81 @ 120 with an intake and a tune.
Teching In
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Originally Posted by the_merv
I am talking out of my ***..do it all the time.. 
Popular Mechanics took that Mustang to the Track with a C6 Z06 and a Viper. All 500hp Cars, and the Mustang pulled a 12.8 (sorry, just looked it up again here at work). Weighing in at 3800lbs, that is still a fat *** car, and should pull faster than that with that much power. I am still trying to figure out where the weight is, they have aluminum 4.6l blocks, that is puny compared to the Iron 5.7 LT1. As far as the GT's, I still wasn't impressed by them.
Popular Mechanics took that Mustang to the Track with a C6 Z06 and a Viper. All 500hp Cars, and the Mustang pulled a 12.8 (sorry, just looked it up again here at work). Weighing in at 3800lbs, that is still a fat *** car, and should pull faster than that with that much power. I am still trying to figure out where the weight is, they have aluminum 4.6l blocks, that is puny compared to the Iron 5.7 LT1. As far as the GT's, I still wasn't impressed by them.
Actually, the GT500 has the 5.4 l iron block in it so thats where some of the weight comes from. And I seemed to remember reading somewhere a C6 is just as fast as the GT500 with 100 less horsepower. Go figure.
P.S. I'm not trying to defend the mustang, just pointing out that you spend a sh*t load of money to get one and its a dog.
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I wouldn't call the 500's anything, there was a kenne belle mule that dynoed a hair over 800rwhp, not bad imo. Gt's on the other hand often lack a driver with enough know how to pose much of a threat to us, they are NOT equal in any way shape or form to an ls1 drivers not withstanding. I would not resort to magazing racing either some of their times (esp with higher hp cars) can be lacking.
TECH Resident
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im not gonna discredit the 500. but the gts are not comparable to the god almighty ls1 they are more like our lt1s.ive beaten two of them with exhaust and intake. they were only a 1 to 1.5 car lenghts behind me though. but i me thats garbage the car is over 10 years newer and my cars got 140 k on it.
and on the charge question- now that a real pig!!!! i killed one bad! it was a on of those r/t daytonas.
and on the charge question- now that a real pig!!!! i killed one bad! it was a on of those r/t daytonas.
Teching In
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It was my understanding that the GT500 was a much heavier car, something in excess of 4200pds or so, the GT's are the higher 3k car.. Or atleast thats what I seem to recall reading in the Vette, Viper and Mustang shoot-out I read a while back.
All in all though, the GT500 got KILLED by the Viper and Vette and all have similar power output.
Ive seen a couple mostly stock GT's drop 13.8-9's but havent seen anyone on a normal street/sport tire (ie no slicks) do a lot better than flatt-ish 14's. Not sayng that wont, just saying I havent SEEN it.
All in all, ford made a good looking car with some ***** to back it up but I still think its an inferior car to the LS1's and at best, is on par and comparable to our LT cars, which for the price, hype and the fact its brand spanking new doesnt do much for my personal wow factor.. I dont show my o-face to them, thats for sure, though some of em are sexy lookin. IMO though, LS Trans-Am = much much prettier. I would date one, not just wine and dine it and pull a one nighter like i would with the GT's.
The GT500 makes me a little sick to my stomach though, I actually actively dislike that car. Its FI, stupid heavy and (when compared to the other cars in its class) really rather slow with a big-*** price tag. Why do I say FI like its a bad thing? Well, its really not, I just would have liked an N/A that pushed that kind of power since its cousins are doing it.. What happens when you slap a little boost into a viper or vette?
All in all though, the GT500 got KILLED by the Viper and Vette and all have similar power output.
Ive seen a couple mostly stock GT's drop 13.8-9's but havent seen anyone on a normal street/sport tire (ie no slicks) do a lot better than flatt-ish 14's. Not sayng that wont, just saying I havent SEEN it.
All in all, ford made a good looking car with some ***** to back it up but I still think its an inferior car to the LS1's and at best, is on par and comparable to our LT cars, which for the price, hype and the fact its brand spanking new doesnt do much for my personal wow factor.. I dont show my o-face to them, thats for sure, though some of em are sexy lookin. IMO though, LS Trans-Am = much much prettier. I would date one, not just wine and dine it and pull a one nighter like i would with the GT's.
The GT500 makes me a little sick to my stomach though, I actually actively dislike that car. Its FI, stupid heavy and (when compared to the other cars in its class) really rather slow with a big-*** price tag. Why do I say FI like its a bad thing? Well, its really not, I just would have liked an N/A that pushed that kind of power since its cousins are doing it.. What happens when you slap a little boost into a viper or vette?
ive beaten more 05 gt's than anything else...im modded though..but my friends 95TA LT1 w/ cutout, CAI, hypercrap programmer that ran 13.6 has yet to lose to one.....and the gt500 has a 5.4 liter BTW
Staging Lane
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Originally Posted by camar0corey
Its not just popular mechanics, Car and Driver didn't do any better than a 12.7 out of the GT500 when they tested it.
I've already humiliated two of the new regular GTs with no issues.
So great Ford is finally catching up to a car that was released in 93.
I've already humiliated two of the new regular GTs with no issues.
So great Ford is finally catching up to a car that was released in 93.
Is car and Driver also the mag that said the new ZO6 was a low 12sec car? I read some mag that said that, not sure which one.I have seen lots of new ZO6's in the 11's. IMO I think most mags are full of ****.
well my tires are almost bald so i spun a lot... i have cooper zeon sport a/s 275 40 17 right now, do you think i should stick with them or buy bf goodrich g force sport 275 40 17... and i think im goin to get rca relocation brackets and a new torque arm from umi performance do you think that would be a good investment for traction.. also my car isnt lowered
Staging Lane
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Originally Posted by jays97 t/a
well my tires are almost bald so i spun a lot... i have cooper zeon sport a/s 275 40 17 right now, do you think i should stick with them or buy bf goodrich g force sport 275 40 17... and i think im goin to get rca relocation brackets and a new torque arm from umi performance do you think that would be a good investment for traction.. also my car isnt lowered
BFG's all the way
Originally Posted by the_merv
They are a dog at the track..they are not that fast in my opinion, I have taken many of them. I drove a new GT back in 05 when they were first coming out. It was a M5, I wasn't really impressed. Even that new 500hp Shelby GT 500 runs only 13's in the quarter..they are pigs.
11 Second Club
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From: Silver Spring, Md.
This is probably the wrong forum to expect to see a fair comparison between ford and gm. That said, I've seen a couple new GTs run 13.5s with automatics...stock. The stick cars are a bit trickier to drive so times are going to be all over the place depending on driver.
My lt1 ran 13.64 stock. My SS ran 13.28. They are pretty much all in the same ball park.
I love my camaros but would have no problem switching over to a ford. Afterall, they didn't kill their pony car...
I'm not brand loyal, I'll spend my money with whichever company gives me the most bang for my buck.
I know of other folks who loved gm but hated that fact that they offered nothing after 2002. Choices? Cobalt, GTO, Vette.
My lt1 ran 13.64 stock. My SS ran 13.28. They are pretty much all in the same ball park.
I love my camaros but would have no problem switching over to a ford. Afterall, they didn't kill their pony car...
I'm not brand loyal, I'll spend my money with whichever company gives me the most bang for my buck.
I know of other folks who loved gm but hated that fact that they offered nothing after 2002. Choices? Cobalt, GTO, Vette.