LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

backfiring/no grunt after longtubes

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 10:00 PM
  #1  
Revelation Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,770
Likes: 0
From: Rialto CA
Default backfiring/no grunt after longtubes

well i installed my LTs over the past 2 days. ORY and no cat. car has exhaust leaks at the collectors, but not much. well i checked today and the porcelain on #5 plug was shaved off in a little are and it was all the way through to the top terminal. would that cause a backfire at idle and when off the gas? plug wires are fairly new and they arent touching the primaries. seens like it didnt backfire with open headers or during the first idle start with ORY. it started doing it after i revved it a little.

also i ran the car open headers to move it overnight. O2s never set off any DTC codes. im OBD1 so i dont know if they would.

and the engine seems to hesitate until higher RPM, but i need more pedal to get up and go. im thinking header break in because im running rich, but i dont know it OBD1 has a break in.
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2007 | 03:54 AM
  #2  
Revelation Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,770
Likes: 0
From: Rialto CA
Default

i found that my alternator wire for charging the system wasnt connected. draining my battery and plugs not getting good spark.
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2007 | 06:01 AM
  #3  
Formula350's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 7,564
Likes: 4
From: Decatur, TN (N-W of Athens)
Default

I'd replace #5. No sense in leaving it like that, and if it's cracked (not visible to the eye), that could cause problems too.
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2007 | 09:45 AM
  #4  
WhyHelloOfficer's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 583
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, Fl
Default

Double check all of your plugs and plus wires -- usually a lot of people replace them while they do headers because it is a whole helluva lot easier to do.
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2007 | 06:58 PM
  #5  
Revelation Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,770
Likes: 0
From: Rialto CA
Default

ok plugs been replaced. running smooth now.

one of my wires is 1mm from the primary... so i gotta heatwrap the wire.

question, the coolant temp sensor wire connector feels kinda loose you can wiggle it while its connected. is that normal?
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2007 | 07:19 PM
  #6  
WhyHelloOfficer's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 583
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, Fl
Default

Originally Posted by Revelation Z28
ok plugs been replaced. running smooth now.

one of my wires is 1mm from the primary... so i gotta heatwrap the wire.

question, the coolant temp sensor wire connector feels kinda loose you can wiggle it while its connected. is that normal?
The one in the waterpump in the front? Or the sensor in the driver's side head?

It should be pretty snug. I remember when I was doing plugs one time I touched mine and it was pretty loose, when I messed with it actually snapped. Its like a $10 part at the dealership, just make sure the car is cool when you swap them out, although you'll still lose a little bit of coolant.
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2007 | 07:56 PM
  #7  
Revelation Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,770
Likes: 0
From: Rialto CA
Default

Originally Posted by WhyHelloOfficer
The one in the waterpump in the front? Or the sensor in the driver's side head?

It should be pretty snug. I remember when I was doing plugs one time I touched mine and it was pretty loose, when I messed with it actually snapped. Its like a $10 part at the dealership, just make sure the car is cool when you swap them out, although you'll still lose a little bit of coolant.
well the actual sensor is snug and tight, the electrical connector is a little loose and its snapped too.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2007 | 02:24 AM
  #8  
Revelation Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,770
Likes: 0
From: Rialto CA
Default

ok driving it around and on cold start (open loop) it runs great. only closed loop and sometimes coming out of a stop itll act up. i gotta put my new o2s in the old ones are 13 years old.

itll backfire after driving around lightly on idle and coming out of stops at too low of an rpm itll try and die a little.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-4

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-8

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

 Brett Foote
Old Apr 29, 2007 | 04:13 AM
  #9  
Formula350's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 7,564
Likes: 4
From: Decatur, TN (N-W of Athens)
Default

Backfires are caused by less back pressure too, I think.

As for the sensor connector, it's fine. I have sensors where the retention clip has snapped off Their weather proofing gasket (rubber grommet looking) hold them in enough since they don't wobble about. If you don't like it, goto NAPA and get a new plug, they're only like $2.50, if that since it's a common GM part.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2007 | 03:03 PM
  #10  
Revelation Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,770
Likes: 0
From: Rialto CA
Default

well i used the pacesetter ghetto rig o2 extending kit for my old sensors. i think it has weak connections cause i crimped the butt connectors.. im waiting for fed ex to deliver my plug & play extensions for my new ones. i just hope bosch doesnt **** up.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2007 | 03:11 PM
  #11  
Formula350's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 7,564
Likes: 4
From: Decatur, TN (N-W of Athens)
Default

Originally Posted by Revelation Z28
i just hope bosch doesnt **** up.

What do you mean? The connector, or the O2? You won't have a problem with Bosch's unless you drop it or your system is running that bad. Lets hope that fixes it.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2007 | 03:24 PM
  #12  
Revelation Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,770
Likes: 0
From: Rialto CA
Default

well my old o2s were white as hell and my friend touched the sniffer part and it tapped the workbench alot. so i think thats a dead giveaway.
Reply
Old May 6, 2007 | 07:05 PM
  #13  
Revelation Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,770
Likes: 0
From: Rialto CA
Default

well im still getting the problem. im going to put OTVC wires in this week. none of my wires are burned or anything.

i just looked too and my friend forgot to install one of the header bolts. i dont know if that will cause a problem.

fouled plugs maybe?
Reply
Old May 7, 2007 | 07:16 PM
  #14  
Revelation Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,770
Likes: 0
From: Rialto CA
Default

FIXED!!!!

i took out the AC delco PLATINUM pos's and put TR-55's and the car feels great.

easier to break loose the tires and it pulls way more up top with the LTs.

dynotune next!
Reply
Old May 7, 2007 | 08:44 PM
  #15  
Hot94Z28's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,230
Likes: 0
From: Lexington,MO
Default

If your Headers are coated I have been told that when it cures after a few heat cycles it kills your 02's. I had to change mine after my header install.
Reply
Old May 7, 2007 | 10:25 PM
  #16  
Revelation Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,770
Likes: 0
From: Rialto CA
Default

i put new o2s in after 4 days.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:28 PM.

story-0
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-1
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-4
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-5
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-6
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE
story-9
Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

The world was a better place when it was still around.

By Brett Foote | 2026-01-23 09:20:37


VIEW MORE