Possible bad program/tune????
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Hey guys, I'll try and make this short......
I have a 69 Camaro......I took the LT-1 engine and auto trans out of a 94 Z-28 to put in the 69.
I had the PCM mail order tuned for the 383 LT-1 I built out of the stock 94 motor.
I got it all running and it clatters VERY BAD under light to moderate throttle. This is major preignition well under 3K RPM.
Is it possible he just did a tune for the 350 using 350 parameters instead of 383 parameters by accident? If so, would it make sense that it's pinging so bad?
Thanks for any input guys,
Joe
I have a 69 Camaro......I took the LT-1 engine and auto trans out of a 94 Z-28 to put in the 69.
I had the PCM mail order tuned for the 383 LT-1 I built out of the stock 94 motor.
I got it all running and it clatters VERY BAD under light to moderate throttle. This is major preignition well under 3K RPM.
Is it possible he just did a tune for the 350 using 350 parameters instead of 383 parameters by accident? If so, would it make sense that it's pinging so bad?
Thanks for any input guys,
Joe
Make sure you have the drive shaft on your distributor indexed right. If it is off a tooth is can be advanced and do this. I had a '94 opti for my truck and it came with the shaft in it already, I installed it and the truck would ping just revving it in neutral. Here come to find out someone had forced the shaft on in the wrong place and it was advanced.
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Originally Posted by smoknta
Contact your tuner, they should be able to verify that the tune is correct or not.
Originally Posted by fergymoto
Make sure you have the drive shaft on your distributor indexed right. If it is off a tooth is can be advanced and do this. I had a '94 opti for my truck and it came with the shaft in it already, I installed it and the truck would ping just revving it in neutral. Here come to find out someone had forced the shaft on in the wrong place and it was advanced.
As far as compression goes, I never really did CC anything or get exact measurements. It has a Scat 383 crank, KB flat top 2 VR pistons .020 over, all rings meet stock clearancing specs, stock heads with polished chambers and mild to moderate port work. So I am assuming compression isin't an issue.
What I really need to do is take all the fuel out of the tank, and put in some fresh 93 octane. The fuel thats currently in it is about 2 months old.
I'll try that and reply back with results.
Thanks guys,
Joe
If you hear it rattling then it's rattling. No matter what you see for spark advance in the tune I would back off on the PCM timing (4 to 6 deg at least) until the rattle goes away.
If the cam/crank/timingset/opti is advanced (unknowingly) then that could be causing the spark rattle.
reason I say this is because I had a 383 motor that rattled like yours and I had to back the PCM timing off way down to 30deg (in the high load areas) and just scratched my head. Until I found that the cam was 6 deg advanced....meaning the distributor was 6 deg. advanced too.
Karl
If the cam/crank/timingset/opti is advanced (unknowingly) then that could be causing the spark rattle.
reason I say this is because I had a 383 motor that rattled like yours and I had to back the PCM timing off way down to 30deg (in the high load areas) and just scratched my head. Until I found that the cam was 6 deg advanced....meaning the distributor was 6 deg. advanced too.
Karl
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Originally Posted by MEAN LT1
Ive had fuel in my tank for 4 months and longer and never have experienced this before. If you want I can look at your tune and see if anything is out of the ordinary?.
Originally Posted by Karl Ellwein
If you hear it rattling then it's rattling. No matter what you see for spark advance in the tune I would back off on the PCM timing (4 to 6 deg at least) until the rattle goes away.
If the cam/crank/timingset/opti is advanced (unknowingly) then that could be causing the spark rattle.
reason I say this is because I had a 383 motor that rattled like yours and I had to back the PCM timing off way down to 30deg (in the high load areas) and just scratched my head. Until I found that the cam was 6 deg advanced....meaning the distributor was 6 deg. advanced too.
Karl
If the cam/crank/timingset/opti is advanced (unknowingly) then that could be causing the spark rattle.
reason I say this is because I had a 383 motor that rattled like yours and I had to back the PCM timing off way down to 30deg (in the high load areas) and just scratched my head. Until I found that the cam was 6 deg advanced....meaning the distributor was 6 deg. advanced too.
Karl
I'll get that fuel changed out today and see what will happen.
Thanks again guys,
Joe






