LS1 Airlid Conversion, WITH PICS!!!
airbox was an easy install. i needed a cowl hood that had the cowl start right after the hood latch bar platform in order to house over the lid. you need to cut some of the bottom of the support so it sits flush with the cross support.
Originally Posted by the_merv
Well you just stay slow then and we'll have fun.. 
Man..you are havin an issue with this..
For someone who doesn't give that much of a **** about it you put up one hell of an arguement..
Tell you what..when I finish up today, I'll post pics of it on there with my new Engine..I suppose I wasted a perfectly good Car by putting that in also..
Man..you are havin an issue with this..
For someone who doesn't give that much of a **** about it you put up one hell of an arguement..
Tell you what..when I finish up today, I'll post pics of it on there with my new Engine..I suppose I wasted a perfectly good Car by putting that in also..
The issue I have is this, people chop up their car based on...what? Because you did it and you SAID it FELT faster? Did no testing whatsoever....NONE.
When you get your 15* headed LS1 together, It MUST have 10 more RWHP with that lid setup...you wouldnt have ANY problem running my SLOW 23* headed OLD SCHOOL LT1.....would ya? Motor to motor?
David
Last edited by FASTFATBOY; Jul 19, 2007 at 12:59 PM.
Originally Posted by ele-blue95
To prove if there is a difference, i'll take my CAI to the track and swap them out and do a best of three runs. How would you like these runs? With DRs, without DRs, cut-out open, cut-out closed, Shifting at 6000 rpm or at 6300 rpm. You guys let me know what would make it easier for everyone. I can change alot of things just so we can get this over with, on the no gains, gains.
Originally Posted by ele-blue95
Like i said David, Im going to do the testing for everyone tomarrow. And if anyone wants to send me some money, i'll go to the dyno down the road and spend the time to get numbers to the wheels.
Is your setup exactly like the one in this thread? Or does it have the LS1 lower box and rad support on it?
David
Here ya go FATBOY..just like I promised..
I'm done arguing..I'll go have a more of a productive conversation with my Wall..
I'll run you Motor to Motor..with my "LS1"..
You fail to read the Signature young Grasshopper..
I don't know why you are referring to the LT1 like that anyways..no where am I baggin on it...last time I checked I had one in my Car at one point in time..
Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
The issue I have is this, people chop up their car based on...what? Because you did it and you SAID it FELT faster? Did no testing whatsoever....NONE.
When you get your 15* headed LS1 together, It MUST have 10 more RWHP with that lid setup...you wouldnt have ANY problem running my SLOW 23* headed OLD SCHOOL LT1.....would ya? Motor to motor?
David
When you get your 15* headed LS1 together, It MUST have 10 more RWHP with that lid setup...you wouldnt have ANY problem running my SLOW 23* headed OLD SCHOOL LT1.....would ya? Motor to motor?
David
I'll run you Motor to Motor..with my "LS1"..
You fail to read the Signature young Grasshopper..
I don't know why you are referring to the LT1 like that anyways..no where am I baggin on it...last time I checked I had one in my Car at one point in time..
Last edited by the_merv; Jul 20, 2007 at 02:27 AM.
Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
Is your setup exactly like the one in this thread? Or does it have the LS1 lower box and rad support on it?
David
David
Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
In case you have never SEEN a LS1 lower airbox...this car DOES NOT HAVE THE LOWER AIRBOX..DUHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!???
An LS1 BLOCKS the radiator heat with the plastic LOWER part of the box, a STOCK LS1 lower box TOTALLY is sealed off from the radiator and condenser.
The LS1 "free ram air mod" cuts the bottom of the box out FORWARD of the radiator.
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Verdad Gallardo it sucks from the bottom too 
the way i did mine i can get air either way. when youre at a stop it usually comes from the front and when moving the bottom
merv, i never thought id see the day.
the way i did mine i can get air either way. when youre at a stop it usually comes from the front and when moving the bottom
merv, i never thought id see the day.
Originally Posted by the_merv
Here ya go FATBOY..just like I promised..
I'm done arguing..I'll go have a more of a productive conversation with my Wall..
I'll run you Motor to Motor..with my "LS1"..
You fail to read the Signature young Grasshopper..
I don't know why you are referring to the LT1 like that anyways..no where am I baggin on it...last time I checked I had one in my Car at one point in time..
I'm done arguing..I'll go have a more of a productive conversation with my Wall..
I'll run you Motor to Motor..with my "LS1"..
You fail to read the Signature young Grasshopper..
I don't know why you are referring to the LT1 like that anyways..no where am I baggin on it...last time I checked I had one in my Car at one point in time..
Ahhh Sooo, you also fail to read MY sig young one.
You made the statement"you keep going slow" Here is what I am going slow with.
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[/IMG] I will be in Tulsa Ok in a month or so at Ed Wrights shop.....we can hook up after I am done. I got less motor in a heavier car...nothing to fear.
All I am after is PROOF.....If you prove me wrong I will shut up.
David
Originally Posted by Revelation Z28
it sucks from the bottom too
the way i did mine i can get air either way. when youre at a stop it usually comes from the front and when moving the bottom
merv, i never thought id see the day.
the way i did mine i can get air either way. when youre at a stop it usually comes from the front and when moving the bottom
merv, i never thought id see the day.
It sucks from the bottom IN FRONT of the radiator, if you cut it out RIGHT... the radiator remains blocked off so heat cannot enter the intake with the stock LS1 lower box.
THIS is the point I am trying to make here. Cutting the core support and laying the filter DIRECTLY on top of the radiator IS NOT the same as what an LS1 has. THERE IS NO LOWER BOX to block the heat from the radiator.
In theory when the maf sees less dense(hot) air and the air inlet temp sensor(ait) sees hot air the ecm adjusts fuel and timing and thus less power. IN THEORY.
If it were ME and I did that, I would attach a piece of sheet aluminum on top of the rad and condenser, make a little stand for the filter to sit on and drill holes in the front of the core support to pull air from the spot between the core support and the front cap, angle it down and pop rivet it to the plastic piece angled up in front of the radiator but hey that's just me.
I am a realist...I need proof...you guys can **** up a rope for all I care....If you want to do that to your car because you THINK it makes it faster....I got no problem with that.
Think for a minute, why do cars run better in winter? Cooler air, why to F/I cars run intercoolers? Cooler air, why do cars run better at sea level? Denser air(aka cooler) Why do racers keep up with the DA at a racetrack? Air quality...COme on guys.
Again, if you prove me wrong...I will go away..
MERV, engine looks awesome.
David
Last edited by FASTFATBOY; Jul 20, 2007 at 07:33 AM.
Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
Think for a minute, why do cars run better in winter? Cooler air, why to F/I cars run intercoolers? Cooler air, why do cars run better at sea level? Denser air(aka cooler) Why do racers keep up with the DA at a racetrack? Air quality...COme on guys.
David
David
all i know is the way mine is is the way to go, and it works great. i was going to do the hack mod, but i decided a hood to clear the setup is worth more than taking a chunk out of the front framerail. so i just got the radiator cover and a lid. i just want to get the FTRA/SLP air funnel from the flowpack. so itll feed it air from the bottom with more of a charge.
Last edited by Revelation Z28; Jul 20, 2007 at 11:26 AM.
Thanks for the link to the thread, I saved the pic of that harwood. Was he still trying to get rid of that hood???
I'm going your route also, I'll just get a hood to clear instead of cutting things up.
Even if hypothetically it doesn't make any more power, it will make working on things easier. Having to pull the K&N CAI is a pain in the ***.
I'm going your route also, I'll just get a hood to clear instead of cutting things up.
Even if hypothetically it doesn't make any more power, it will make working on things easier. Having to pull the K&N CAI is a pain in the ***.
Originally Posted by camar0corey
Thanks for the link to the thread, I saved the pic of that harwood. Was he still trying to get rid of that hood???
I'm going your route also, I'll just get a hood to clear instead of cutting things up.
Even if hypothetically it doesn't make any more power, it will make working on things easier. Having to pull the K&N CAI is a pain in the ***.
I'm going your route also, I'll just get a hood to clear instead of cutting things up.
Even if hypothetically it doesn't make any more power, it will make working on things easier. Having to pull the K&N CAI is a pain in the ***.