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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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Hey all...

About to buy my STS kit and even though they say it should run "fine" with 4-5psi on stock internals, I'm a stiffler about putting extra stress on crap let alone stock parts...

I've been floating around google, reading couple of articles from GM High Tech but not really fulfilling a decent list, so here's what I have. Please help me in choosing the correct parts to safely run 7psi of boost with a tune from a shop around here...


Here's what I got:

Manley Nextek Valve Springs

Manley Titanium Retainers

Comp Hi-Tech Pushrods

should I go with 1.6rrs for this? or should I just throw them on? If I go for 1.6rrs will these springs suffice?

A friend told me about doing guideplates........




And yes I know my stock rearend will see it's end soon, however I dont plan on beating the crap out of my car. Will a decent rebuild do it? 3.73s or 4.10s? I'll eventually be doing a strange 12 bolt but I heard I might be able to get away with just doing better axles.


Also:

- This car will not be taken to the track
- There will be no launching of this car


For for the valvetrain, do you folks think I have what I need? Should I change brands?


Thanks so much guys, I'm really looking forward to doing this over the winter!

~Brian
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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I would definately upgrade the rearend with moser axles, there is a guy on the camaroz28 forum that built his rearend for around 850 bucks and it withstands brutal launches on the 10 bolt.
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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hmm, excellent thanks slingshot, anyone have some insight?
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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1.6 rockers will be fine, just make sure you install the springs at the recommended install height. Do the guideplates with non self aligning roller rockers. I wish I had done that mod a long time ago!
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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1.6 rockers will be fine, just make sure you install the springs at the recommended install height. Do the guideplates with non self aligning roller rockers. I wish I had done that mod a long time ago!
Thanks so much denney! Are the comp cam pushrods nice? I've heard alot of good things about the company in whole, just making sure!
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 10:46 PM
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I would skip the titanium retainers.
Specs on the springs?
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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http://www.lmperformance.com/3411/27.html

there's more details on the springs...seem nice?
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by slingshot928
I would definately upgrade the rearend with moser axles, there is a guy on the camaroz28 forum that built his rearend for around 850 bucks and it withstands brutal launches on the 10 bolt.
Spending 850 on beefing up the stock rear end is pretty much a waste of money and a dumb idea, especially considering that's almost half of what you need to really fix the problem.
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by phrozen755
Thanks so much denney! Are the comp cam pushrods nice? I've heard alot of good things about the company in whole, just making sure!
They're hardened pushrods. Only time will tell how good they are. Should be as good or better than anything else.
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by infinitebird
Spending 850 on beefing up the stock rear end is pretty much a waste of money and a dumb idea, especially considering that's almost half of what you need to really fix the problem.
Well, personally i have seen this waste of money got 9s, but hell, it is actually 1/3 of the money needed to "fix" the problem.

Yes, the comp push ruds will be fine, sounds to me like you are on the right trach, hope you dont yake it to the track on slicks, that thing will be making enough torque to let you know what is weak and needs replacing.
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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I personaly went with a set of Cro-moly hardend pushrods for the lil extra price....Thunder has their cro-moly pushrods for around $110, but seems like you're on the right track, and I'd also recomend the guide plates as well
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
Well, personally i have seen this waste of money got 9s, but hell, it is actually 1/3 of the money needed to "fix" the problem.
People have gone 9s on a stock rear end too, and plenty of people have built the rear and still broken it. Building the 10 bolt doesn't make it all that much more reliable.
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Originally Posted by infinitebird
People have gone 9s on a stock rear end too, and plenty of people have built the rear and still broken it. Building the 10 bolt doesn't make it all that much more reliable.
Well, if you select the right parts with a gurdle it will last a while, not all of us can aford a 12 bolt or better.

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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
Well, if you select the right parts with a gurdle it will last a while, not all of us can aford a 12 bolt or better.

IM BROKE BITCH!!!!

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Thanks for the insight from both of you! but I'm just trying to make it last at least 4 months or so...if not a little longer. It'll be my weekend car so if the 10 bolt calls it quits I'll just get the 12 bolt. Just need to make it last a couple of months so I can afford it

I dont plan on beating on the car, just a couple of ganks from 30+MPH and NO launching...the car will also NOT have slicks or DRs.

I'll save the 10.5''s for the 12 bolt
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 01:29 AM
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yeah it should last a while on street tires. It's when you start cutting 1.6s that things will want to break.
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hell, that is the secret to me keeping a T5 alive for so long, keep radials on it(even though they are 295s) and keep a stock clutch in her(even though the bitch never slips).
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as long as your not hooking you SHOULDNT break much of anything..its the traction that tears **** up
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 3pnt4maro
as long as your not hooking you SHOULDNT break much of anything..its the traction that tears **** up
then whats the point of adding power?


honestly, if I do 40mph rolls, how will that play out with ol' grumpy grenade 10 bolt?
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Originally Posted by phrozen755
then whats the point of adding power?


honestly, if I do 40mph rolls, how will that play out with ol' grumpy grenade 10 bolt?
Depends on the car, a heavier LT1 fully loaded will anuse a 10 bolt worse than a srtipper or gutted car, less weight to get moving=less stress=longer life. As i said, i have seen them go 9s, but i didnt say it was a every day street car.
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