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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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sounds badass, I have been eyeing this cam up also, this is helping my decision
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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got dyno or track results for that thing? I ask because I've heard those lobes are somewhat overaggressive for the kind of rpm those valve events would work best at. It sounds awesome anyway.....
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Picked up 2/10's over the CC306 I had in it. It makes much better mid range than the 306 did.

best on motor 7.78@91
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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Do you have a stall in your ride or is it an m6?does it pull hard all the way up?
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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It's a M6 with 4.33's. Pulls awesome from 2800 to 6900
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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makes me want to up from my XFi 230 now.....Sounds mean as hell...
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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yea, the link is dead for me. all it shows are comments from other ppl
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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Hmm link seems to be working fine, it is also in my sig.
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 12:39 AM
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Yea, that **** is awsome, i would like to go for a ride.
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Old Sep 2, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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Downloaded the newest media player and it works now, car sounds sick as hell!
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by LALT1
Picked up 2/10's over the CC306 I had in it. It makes much better mid range than the 306 did.

best on motor 7.78@91
It's been awhile since you swapped, how are you liking it now compared to the CC306? What springs are you using with it? Hit the dyno at all?

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Let's put this in perspective. My taxi with 16 degrees less intake duration and less lift with a mechanical WP and 3.73s has done 7.5 at 90mphin the 1/8th. Granted he had a MPH on me but the WP and weight should be worth a LOT more than 1mph.

This is just another example of a person overcamming a car and not knowing any better so they tell everyone how good it is.

fergymoto already showed that with good heads this cam in a 350 will peak beyond the pcm's capability. He wised up and swapped to the cam I have and is happier.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Let's put this in perspective. My taxi with 16 degrees less intake duration and less lift with a mechanical WP and 3.73s has done 7.5 at 90mphin the 1/8th. Granted he had a MPH on me but the WP and weight should be worth a LOT more than 1mph.

This is just another example of a person overcamming a car and not knowing any better so they tell everyone how good it is.

fergymoto already showed that with good heads this cam in a 350 will peak beyond the pcm's capability. He wised up and swapped to the cam I have and is happier.
Your assuming that both setups are tuned in motor, suspension and track wise. Numbers dont tell the whole story. Not saying you wrong, but it's that kinda math that doesnt mean much to me.

I already contacted Fergymoto, and he cant show me anything except his kind words for what his setup did. No dyno sheet and track numbers that in my opinoin do not show true potential.

Overcammed means something different to everyone, what works for you may not work good for me. Actually it's more than likely it wont work good for me. 3400 stall with 3.73's are set up to do something different than 4000 stall and 4.11's. Although thanks for the insight.

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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 07:01 AM
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Mine is a pretty rough mailorder tune that the AFR varies from 12.2-12.7 through the rpm range, zero timing changes from the Creech baseline, a few shift point tweaks. Midlength headers(1 5/8") through 2.5" mufflers.

If you pay attention most of the mid 220s intake cams need to see 6500 with decent heads.

Heads are a big variable in the rpm a cam needs to see that people neglect to consider. Stock heads with this cam would likely peak WELL within the pcm's capability because the heads will choke it.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 07:44 AM
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Each to their own, but that cam is big for street use. But if sound is what your after sound that's what you'll get. That is whats goes on with the cruise in /car show crowd here where I live guy's over cam the **** out of the engine and it's just a big turd, but all they won't to do is pose and turn people's heads when they pull in the parking lot, with a show car chopping like a top fuel funny car. I see that and kinda chuckle under my breath,But I'll also here the average joe telling his wife and kid's how fast that car must be because it sounds like a drag car, Oh yeah then you have the guy with a gear drive that try's to play it like it's a SC..LoL

Your car does sound killer though rock on..
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Let's put this in perspective. My taxi with 16 degrees less intake duration and less lift with a mechanical WP and 3.73s has done 7.5 at 90mphin the 1/8th. Granted he had a MPH on me but the WP and weight should be worth a LOT more than 1mph.

This is just another example of a person overcamming a car and not knowing any better so they tell everyone how good it is.

fergymoto already showed that with good heads this cam in a 350 will peak beyond the pcm's capability. He wised up and swapped to the cam I have and is happier.
why dont you check out his site? that post was 2 years ago, you dont think he has gotten a better time? oh wait, he has...

http://www.fquick.com/garages/Pontia...Am/1995/14339/

Best 60': 1.62
Best R/T: .089
Best 1/8 Mile ET: 7.31
Best 1/8 Mile MPH: 101

7.31 @ 101, by my standards, is a bit faster than your taxi's 7.5 @ 90something.

I had an ed curtis spec 242/250 on a 112lsa. it had the XFI 292 intake lobe. I made 390 rwhp through a big stall auto on what are basically stock heads with some bowl work and a valve job. it peaked at 6350-6400.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8JZiuq3sDg

check the vid. 389 @ 6370, 365 rwtq @ 4490. thats on a mustang dyno too.
I shifted it at 6800 where power had started to fall a little bit. car ran like a bat out of hell.

big cams make power. small cams are for daily drivers.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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Yea, if it did run this cam, it's not going in a street car. I could care less about sound and impressing people. Just trying to find results, graphs, or whatever. The valvetrain events on the XFI292 cam are close to a custom cam I got spec'ed last week, just a little "bigger".

Zigroid was spec'ed something even bigger and had good results. But like everyone has said, these arent for the average H/C guys, who mainly dont know what they want. I know you guys have to tell them to keep the low end, stay in the 220's, etc, because they dont understand what they want. You need a big stall, gear, tuning, etc to get cars with larger cams to perform. Most people cant deal with that. I followed Zigroids posts along with many others about this cam.

Thing I like about the CC306 is it works well on the bottle and that's a good reason for me to keep it around. Wont be the best N/A, but run good on the juice, and I've got the drivetrain to support it.

Zigroid, any new updates on your car, I watched the video, which I found comical. Get sticky tires on that car and take it to the track yet?

LALT1 is looking like he's got a nice MPH going there in the 1/8.

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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by zigroid
why dont you check out his site? that post was 2 years ago, you dont think he has gotten a better time? oh wait, he has...

http://www.fquick.com/garages/Pontia...Am/1995/14339/

Best 60': 1.62
Best R/T: .089
Best 1/8 Mile ET: 7.31
Best 1/8 Mile MPH: 101

7.31 @ 101, by my standards, is a bit faster than your taxi's 7.5 @ 90something.

I had an ed curtis spec 242/250 on a 112lsa. it had the XFI 292 intake lobe. I made 390 rwhp through a big stall auto on what are basically stock heads with some bowl work and a valve job. it peaked at 6350-6400.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8JZiuq3sDg

check the vid. 389 @ 6370, 365 rwtq @ 4490. thats on a mustang dyno too.
I shifted it at 6800 where power had started to fall a little bit. car ran like a bat out of hell.

big cams make power. small cams are for daily drivers.

According to that site he made 490rwhp 540rwtq so it looks like he's spraying it now.

Did you ever run your car at the track?
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bersaglieri
Yea, if it did run this cam, it's not going in a street car. I could care less about sound and impressing people. Just trying to find results, graphs, or whatever. The valvetrain events on the XFI292 cam are close to a custom cam I got spec'ed last week, just a little "bigger".

Zigroid was spec'ed something even bigger and had good results. But like everyone has said, these arent for the average H/C guys, who mainly dont know what they want. I know you guys have to tell them to keep the low end, stay in the 220's, etc, because they dont understand what they want. You need a big stall, gear, tuning, etc to get cars with larger cams to perform. Most people cant deal with that. I followed Zigroids posts along with many others about this cam.

Thing I like about the CC306 is it works well on the bottle and that's a good reason for me to keep it around. Wont be the best N/A, but run good on the juice, and I've got the drivetrain to support it.

Zigroid, any new updates on your car, I watched the video, which I found comical. Get sticky tires on that car and take it to the track yet?

LALT1 is looking like he's got a nice MPH going there in the 1/8.

-Dustin-
also stock rod bolts don't like big cams w/ proper supporting heads
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