FTI torque converter
^^ It was locked around 85 mph towards the top of third gear like you're supposed to. Like dwayne already said, a quality efficient converter locked usually shows little if any gains when locking them at the track.
Based on datalogs, the converter is only showing around 4% slip when I run it out to 6000rpm. Edge 9.5" stall. Stalls to around 3400. STR 2.45.
What size is your TC btw? Never did answer that
Matt
Based on datalogs, the converter is only showing around 4% slip when I run it out to 6000rpm. Edge 9.5" stall. Stalls to around 3400. STR 2.45.
What size is your TC btw? Never did answer that
Matt
Last edited by buffman; Sep 12, 2007 at 06:20 PM.
Originally Posted by XX11SECZXX
ok has anyone on here ever locked the converter with their yank or fuddle converter or any converter at all at the track. until then dont say what or what its not gonna do.
I would consider Fuddle to be one of those startups that doesn't really know as much as they claim too.
Yank on the other hand is a top company, never owned one myself but acquaintances who have have reported pretty much what Matt is saying about his Edge, basically no gain. Again that is because the converter is efficient and not slipping excessively.
I have not played with locking mine because I learned enough about it before I got too this level to not bother wasting my time on it. Part of that learning was through helping a friend with his car and trying it locked and unlocked with his 3300 Edge.
A few years back the Impala forums were dominated by middle aged guys, many with engineering backgrounds and such, I avoided A LOT of wasted time and mistakes by paying attention to those guys. The taking the time to dissect claims and understand the science they all did to analyze things taught me not just what to mod but even though most of them are gone continues to serve me well because they taught me HOW rather than just giving yes and no answers. That analytical spirit is missing over there now and here as well, all would do well to try and be more like that.
I can not afford to make every mistake everyone else already has, so I do not have first hand experiance in everything, but then again with GOOD research you can do a lot without having to experiance it all along the way.
i raced it last night but they screwed me up cuz they only ran 1/8 mile. 90 degrees outside i ran a 1.66 60ft chattering the tires through 1st gear. and ran 7.5@94 which is almost a tenth quicker than i ran when it was 60 degrees out i would say that is a pretty big gain the mph didnt go up that much but i didnt get to run the 1/4. locking it in third isnt much of a difference but second deffinatly is. when i get to run again i will tell u the difference.
Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Slamming shift with a 4000 stall in a 4L60E means you WILL break hard parts.
A 1.7 STR is just sad, unless it was built for a car with an absolutely crappy chassis an this was the bandaid.
For a street strip car Edge, Yank and Vigilante are where it is at.
If locking the converter makes the car quicker in the 1/4 that is proof positive it is not built right, I am not talking MPH I am talking quicker as in lower ET.
A 1.7 STR is just sad, unless it was built for a car with an absolutely crappy chassis an this was the bandaid.
For a street strip car Edge, Yank and Vigilante are where it is at.
If locking the converter makes the car quicker in the 1/4 that is proof positive it is not built right, I am not talking MPH I am talking quicker as in lower ET.
Originally Posted by XX11SECZXX
amazing your telling me what my car will do and you have only been 11.9 wow and i have been 11.6 in my streetcar. go on need2speed.com and talk to the people on that page. noone on this page knows what they are talking about.
And if you are gaining time by locking your conveter in 2nd gear that just shows how inefficient it is. this post is hilarious. i know all about this converter manufacturer and i know you are just trying to push his stuff. i am sure you have good intensions but this post has so much bad information coming from you 11secz its not even funny. enjoy your converter but stop pimping a non sponsor company before you are sent on a vacation.
Originally Posted by speed_demon24
His car weighs 600+lbs heavier than your car and all you managed to run is .3 better? And if you are gaining time by locking your conveter in 2nd gear that just shows how inefficient it is.
And if you are gaining time by locking your conveter in 2nd gear that just shows how inefficient it is.
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Verdad Gallardo i wouldnt no what its going to increase yet i havent made a 1/4 pass yet. but everyone i have talked to said they saw a 2-3 mph gain locking it. and what is the deal with the non sponsored sh*t?
My car is also setup so simply that the first pass my wife ever madce down the strip in any car she came within .1 of my best for the day, and got closer to my best as she made a few more passes. No goffiness in locking converter or anything else, just point and shoot. She is also not familiar with performance driving, her most powerful car to date is an 03 Impala with the 3.4L, my almost stock 4700lbs wagon feels powerful to her even with the 2.93s.
Also again I want to point out that I am not arguing a MPH gain but I am saying that 3mph would be proof of a poor converter and that MPH is not everything. Have to wonder what you are doing to that lockup clutch. Would be interesting to see datamaster logs locked and unlocked for your car, bet it still slips pretty heavily "locked".
Also again I want to point out that I am not arguing a MPH gain but I am saying that 3mph would be proof of a poor converter and that MPH is not everything. Have to wonder what you are doing to that lockup clutch. Would be interesting to see datamaster logs locked and unlocked for your car, bet it still slips pretty heavily "locked".
Originally Posted by XX11SECZXX
i wouldnt no what its going to increase yet i havent made a 1/4 pass yet. but everyone i have talked to said they saw a 2-3 mph gain locking it. and what is the deal with the non sponsored sh*t?
Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
My car is also setup so simply that the first pass my wife ever madce down the strip in any car she came within .1 of my best for the day, and got closer to my best as she made a few more passes. No goffiness in locking converter or anything else, just point and shoot. She is also not familiar with performance driving, her most powerful car to date is an 03 Impala with the 3.4L, my almost stock 4700lbs wagon feels powerful to her even with the 2.93s.
Also again I want to point out that I am not arguing a MPH gain but I am saying that 3mph would be proof of a poor converter and that MPH is not everything. Have to wonder what you are doing to that lockup clutch. Would be interesting to see datamaster logs locked and unlocked for your car, bet it still slips pretty heavily "locked".
Also again I want to point out that I am not arguing a MPH gain but I am saying that 3mph would be proof of a poor converter and that MPH is not everything. Have to wonder what you are doing to that lockup clutch. Would be interesting to see datamaster logs locked and unlocked for your car, bet it still slips pretty heavily "locked".
Originally Posted by XX11SECZXX
really? ok then he charged me 0$ for it happy. he never gave me a bill.
Parts cost money and to say he did it all out of the kindness of his heart is ludicrous. My dad owned a fast food restaurant for 25 years. Do you think he made money giving hamburgers away? If he wasn't gonna give up 99 cent hamburgers I know some guy ain't gonna give you free labor and parts on a potential $800-$1200 transmission build.