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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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i got this crazy water pump for free. my friends dad works for nascar and got it for me. from what i understand its what they run on the race cars. now obviously it goes in the coolant line somewhere. but what i don't know is do i run it in addition with my stock pump. i'm assuming yes because it doesn't have any place for a thermostat. does anybody know anything about these pumps or have any experience retrofitting them on lt1's? or is there any reason why i should not hook this thing up? thanks for any info.




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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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If your leaving the stock pump on then there is no reason to run this. None.

Just because its from a nascar doesn't mean it would be a good idea to run on a street car. It will probably push to much coolant to fast. I imagine they don't last very long either.
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lol, right right. i see your point.

now let me ask you this. if i remove the stock pump, and run this one, it should work like any other ewp, flow the same amount all the time right? thats how they work right? now, i guess my question would be, where the heck would i mount the thing. i don't guess anybody has ever done this so theres probably no write-ups or anything.

edit: i just read on their website, it flows 55 gallons per minute, the same as the meziere. 10,000 hour lifespan. and can be used as a booster, or as a replacement for mechanical pumps

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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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I would leave well enough alone,why go through the hassle of riggin this up when it might not cool good at low engine speeds,at 180mph it might be good,but when do nascar's cruise at 30mph
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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It looks line some sort of an in line setup. I think that the only way it would work properly would be by stripping out the factory pump but then directing flow would be a problem. You could use it on something old school b/c you could tap the pump openings on the block but I can't see how it's of any good on an LT1
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I would leave well enough alone,why go through the hassle of riggin this up when it might not cool good at low engine speeds,at 180mph it might be good,but when do nascar's cruise at 30mph
it flows 55 gpm, constant. stock pump at idle flows what? 20 something, 40-50 something wide open?
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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It looks line some sort of an in line setup. I think that the only way it would work properly would be by stripping out the factory pump but then directing flow would be a problem. You could use it on something old school b/c you could tap the pump openings on the block but I can't see how it's of any good on an LT1
it can be used as in line or as a replacement for the mechanical pump. as stated above. same as running a mez.

wheres 96caprice?, im sure he's got good info.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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sounds like your idle and low engine speeds may not allow it to get cooled off efficiently..flows a lil too fast..maybe im wrong i dont know a ton about elec pumps
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cool, looks like a mini electric turbo charger.
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cool, looks like a mini electric turbo charger.
thats what i was telling everyone at work it was.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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that is pretty cool id like to see how it works....
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I don't see how that would work on an lt1. It would be a lot of custom fab work if it could.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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i havent had a chance to look around but i think it can be done. if it ends up more trouble than its worth then ill just sell it. but i think it might be good for the LT1 because it loves running cool.
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Nascar..lol
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With stock replacement WP, radiator and 160 stat with tune my car NEVER gets over 180 degrees. So I really don't think something like this is needed.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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im right there with you. i never really get past the half way mark. but then again, it runs so good under the 1/4 mark and thats where i'd like it to be if possible.
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hook it up to your intake!
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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Ok, only way i could see using it would be to use it as a supplement to your stock pump, put it right off the radiator hooking it to the radiator and then the hose to it, not getting rid of the stock pump. Then i would possibly just wire a manual switch to it and only use it in certain situations like at the track or if you saw your car starting to overheat. I couldn't really see it hurting, i definitely wouldnt remove the stock pump but putting that in line couldn't really hurt much and might come in handy if you are in trouble. Also if you had that in line wired to the switch you could keep the water flowing with the car off while at the track or something.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by zlover129
Ok, only way i could see using it would be to use it as a supplement to your stock pump, put it right off the radiator hooking it to the radiator and then the hose to it, not getting rid of the stock pump. Then i would possibly just wire a manual switch to it and only use it in certain situations like at the track or if you saw your car starting to overheat. I couldn't really see it hurting, i definitely wouldnt remove the stock pump but putting that in line couldn't really hurt much and might come in handy if you are in trouble. Also if you had that in line wired to the switch you could keep the water flowing with the car off while at the track or something.

This is the first good reply you got.

I had talked to Stewart a couple years ago prodding them to develope a LT1 mechanical pump improvement. They recommended running this with the mechanical, particularly for between rounds cooldown.

It will cool an LT1 all on it's own just like the 30-55gpm electrics other companies offer.
Stewart will admit these are free flow ratings and that restriction will choke down the 55gpm rating.
If you search their Q&A section you will see our discussion.

I did endup porting the coolant passages in my original block like I mention there but that is all I did as far as playing with the cooling. The current block is not touched atall. One reply there is also where I got the link to the SAE documebntation on the LT1 cooling and waterpump flows.

BTW this pump is available from Summit, only $450 I think and I believe it can be speed controlled.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
and I believe it can be speed controlled.
Any DC motor can be speed controlled by just lower or raising the voltage. Very easy to do with just a Potentiometer (Variable Resistor).
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