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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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I have just received a set of stock aluminum heads that were just done 1000 miles ago. No upgrades, so I am assuming that means the springs too.

I plan on putting these heads on a fresh engine with a zz4 cam.

I have done a lot of reading and my head is spinning with all the different springs, retainers, locks etc.....

I want to upgrade the springs in the heads and not go overboard. I would like the new springs be drop ins with out any machining, or changing the seats in the heads. I am looking to change the springs, retainers, locks and seals.

Will the lt4 springs work with the stock lt1 aluminum head seats, retainers and locks?

Please let me know your suggestions.

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LT4 springs are NOT good enough for the ZZ4 cam, about the only thing they are good for is 1.6 rockers on a stock cam.

Find a spring with about 110lbs on the seat and that will be fine. When I ran that cam I used some Combination Motorsports springs that were 110 on the seat and it worked well for years, if you go with 1.6 rockers you might want a little more pressure.

Judging by you handle can I guess this is say a 94-6 Caprice or Roadmaster wagon??? If so you realize the aluminum heads are NOT an upgrade and depending which ones might actually be a step backwards especially if the average machine shop screwed up the very good factory valvejob, because most can not match it.

Everyone ASSumes the iron LT1 heads are inferior, but as cast they are better than most of the aluminum LT1 heads and as good as the best, but the "good" as cast aluminums are thin and less desirable for porting.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
LT4 springs are NOT good enough for the ZZ4 cam, about the only thing they are good for is 1.6 rockers on a stock cam.

Find a spring with about 110lbs on the seat and that will be fine. When I ran that cam I used some Combination Motorsports springs that were 110 on the seat and it worked well for years, if you go with 1.6 rockers you might want a little more pressure.

Judging by you handle can I guess this is say a 94-6 Caprice or Roadmaster wagon??? If so you realize the aluminum heads are NOT an upgrade and depending which ones might actually be a step backwards especially if the average machine shop screwed up the very good factory valvejob, because most can not match it.

Everyone ASSumes the iron LT1 heads are inferior, but as cast they are better than most of the aluminum LT1 heads and as good as the best, but the "good" as cast aluminums are thin and less desirable for porting.
Yes, it is for a 95 caprice wagon. I realize the aluminum heads are not look at as an upgrade, but that is what I am going with.

Can you give me more info on what springs you recommend from competition motorsports? Is there a part number, link? Are they used with the stock seats, retainers, locks, etc?

Thanks for your help.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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i would think Comp 918s would be good. and someone verify this for me, but you use stock retainers, seals, seats, and keepers. thats how it is on LSx motors, but im not sure about LT1s.
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Originally Posted by Z28_DAD
i would think Comp 918s would be good. and someone verify this for me, but you use stock retainers, seals, seats, and keepers. thats how it is on LSx motors, but im not sure about LT1s.
Those would be a bit overkill but would work.
The retainers would not even be close to working.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Those would be a bit overkill but would work.
The retainers would not even be close to working.
didnt know that. they work on LS1s, but i wasnt sure on the LT1s
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I vote crane 10308's dual springs..I use them and they have a 110 lb seat on them..went on my heads with no machining at all..and are good to .600ish lift
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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I would go with the pac 1218's myself...just for the piece of mind, considering that comp may be having some difficulties with there springs.
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PAC-1218s or PAC-1215s will work.
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Originally Posted by Z28_DAD
i would think Comp 918s would be good. and someone verify this for me, but you use stock retainers, seals, seats, and keepers. thats how it is on LSx motors, but im not sure about LT1s.
Anyone desiring to use Comp 918 needs to spend a couple hours reading the numerous threads on failures and recalls.

I wouldn't touch those things if you gave 'em to me free.

Lots of less expensive better choices, IMHO.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 3pnt4maro
I vote crane 10308's dual springs..I use them and they have a 110 lb seat on them..went on my heads with no machining at all..and are good to .600ish lift
Did you use stock seats/locators?
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