LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

Emission Comp 400 Hp 355

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-03-2007, 11:22 PM
  #1  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
jayweasel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Emission Comp 400 Hp 355

Just wondering what i needed too make 400rwhp out of a 355 and still pass emissions? I was looking into the LE2 package with 1.5 cam but i don't know if it will pass emissions. I also want it all motor, so no power adders. I wanna build a good 355 so it will pretty much be forged ,Im thinking of going with Callies for the internals. Well any suggestions and help on the build of motor would be nice!
Old 11-04-2007, 07:12 AM
  #2  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (1)
 
myltwon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Palm Harbor, FL
Posts: 2,969
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

U can do LE emissions cam or get a cc503 and ported heads with a good tune
Old 11-04-2007, 11:25 AM
  #3  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
jayweasel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

will that get too 400rwhp?
Old 11-04-2007, 12:37 PM
  #4  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
96capricemgr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 11,975
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts

Default

Passing a sniffer or plugin are very different from being truely compliant.
You did not offer the year of your car or a state where the testing/inspection will be done so we have no idea what standards you need to meet.
Old 11-04-2007, 01:01 PM
  #5  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
TAEnvy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: DFW
Posts: 1,651
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

If its an OBDII and you have a lazy tech that doesnt really do visual it would be easy. Thats what I do.

If its a sniffer car. I have seen a hot cammed and ported stock castings car make 390whp and those hotcams usually pass the sniffer, If they are being run with cats (set up correctly)

Id say a small custom grind (for that little extra hp) and be sure to tell the grinder your looking to pass the sniffer and then some AI heads.
Old 11-04-2007, 01:08 PM
  #6  
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (12)
 
wrd1972's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Central Kentucky
Posts: 4,653
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

There is an LE1 emissions cam available from Lloyd. Some have passed with the regular LE1 and hot cams but the pass line is thin and good tune is required. The LE1.5 has a good bit more lift than the LE1 cam and would probably never pass any emissions test.

You goal is difficult but attainable with all the bolt ons if you are NA.
Old 11-04-2007, 03:02 PM
  #7  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
jayweasel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Its a 95 formula, so its obd-I right now as it sits it has pacesetter longtubes emisson comp, off-road y-pipe, with the slp loud mouth exhaust, it has msd wires,blaster coil,and cap. its also ram air...ws6 clone! Pretty much it has no cats so i no it won't pass the visual part!
Old 11-04-2007, 03:04 PM
  #8  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
TAEnvy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: DFW
Posts: 1,651
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

if i doesnt have cats i dont think it will pass the sniffer the way it sits
Old 11-04-2007, 03:08 PM
  #9  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
jayweasel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

im going too buy some high flows for it, so that part is covered. Just needed too get a good combination for a 355, i really don't wanna go too crazy with getting aftermarket heads! Im going too get the stock ones ported
Old 11-04-2007, 05:35 PM
  #10  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
96capricemgr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 11,975
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by jayweasel
Its a 95 formula, so its obd-I right now as it sits it has pacesetter longtubes emisson comp, off-road y-pipe, with the slp loud mouth exhaust, it has msd wires,blaster coil,and cap. its also ram air...ws6 clone! Pretty much it has no cats so i no it won't pass the visual part!
Please explain.

Ported stock heads are the right choice if you choose the right porter.
Old 11-04-2007, 07:57 PM
  #11  
Staging Lane
 
95ZRagtop6M's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: NJ
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Mine was built to pass a sniffer test in NJ using Lloyds recommendations. I retained ALL of the emission equipment down to the air pump and EGR. It made the power in my sig with the stock air box with 800 miles on the fresh engine. I'll put it to the emssions test in Jan. The torque curve is very flat. HP peaks at 6150.
Old 11-04-2007, 09:46 PM
  #12  
On The Tree
 
Karl Ellwein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by jayweasel
........... I wanna build a good 355 so it will pretty much be forged ,Im thinking of going with Callies for the internals. Well any suggestions and help on the build of motor would be nice!
I wish Callies would offer a Compstar or Dragonslayer 1-piece rear 3.48" or 3.50" stroke crankshaft but they don't. You would have to buy the $1700 custom Magnum crank for a 1-piece rear 3.48" stroke crank.

One idea is to keep your stock crankshaft for this 355. It really seems like a very good crank, (the stock GM).

Another suggestion is to use the Mahle piston (Power-pak) #SBC250030F05 with your favorite 6" rod and have the stock crankshaft balanced to that (with your stock flexplate/flywheel). That would make a reliable 355LT1 bottom end with forged pistons/rods and a pretty good stock crankshaft.

Karl
Old 11-05-2007, 12:28 PM
  #13  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
TAEnvy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: DFW
Posts: 1,651
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

check AI, they have a rotating assembly that uses the stock crank and callies 6" rods. I know if I ever did a 355 that wasnt for boost Its what I'd run. Possibly upgrade the pistons If I was gonna run a ton of nirtous.
Old 11-05-2007, 04:01 PM
  #14  
On The Tree
 
Akira_X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Socal
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 95ZRagtop6M
Mine was built to pass a sniffer test in NJ using Lloyds recommendations. I retained ALL of the emission equipment down to the air pump and EGR. It made the power in my sig with the stock air box with 800 miles on the fresh engine. I'll put it to the emssions test in Jan. The torque curve is very flat. HP peaks at 6150.
Your using the stock air box? does that mean no cai? and how do you pass with long tubes?
Old 11-06-2007, 01:06 AM
  #15  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
jayweasel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Yeah i was thinking about running it with nitrous, just haven't decide yet. Really just wanna build a good solid motor thats all. As for the long tubes well there emission comp pacesetter long tubes, all im missing is the cats on the car. Really the reason Im building the motor is cause i threw a bearing in the old one. is there a way too prevent that from happening on the next one? Also Im pretty sure i want it too be 4-bolt...the 2-bolt just worries me. I also live in Indiana, so if anyone has ever run any emissions around the NorthWestern part let me know how yah did.
Old 11-06-2007, 03:07 AM
  #16  
On The Tree
 
Akira_X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Socal
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jayweasel
Yeah i was thinking about running it with nitrous, just haven't decide yet. Really just wanna build a good solid motor thats all. As for the long tubes well there emission comp pacesetter long tubes, all im missing is the cats on the car. Really the reason Im building the motor is cause i threw a bearing in the old one. is there a way too prevent that from happening on the next one? Also Im pretty sure i want it too be 4-bolt...the 2-bolt just worries me. I also live in Indiana, so if anyone has ever run any emissions around the NorthWestern part let me know how yah did.
Is it possible to get cat's with LT's?
Old 11-06-2007, 03:19 AM
  #17  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (5)
 
transamws6_97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 1,303
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by Akira_X
Is it possible to get cat's with LT's?
yeah you can get a catted y pipe or just make your own
Old 11-06-2007, 08:14 AM
  #18  
Staging Lane
 
95ZRagtop6M's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: NJ
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Akira_X
Your using the stock air box? does that mean no cai? and how do you pass with long tubes?
It was dyno'd with no CAI, but I had a K&N replacement filter. I have since installed a LPE CAI. It turns 115 mph in the qtr at 3750lbs (race weight), so I think it's probably making a little more than the 387 dyno'd.

LT's typcially aren't a problem in NJ as long as cats are in place and it passes the roller sniffer test. I used JetHots since EGR and Air can be retained.



Quick Reply: Emission Comp 400 Hp 355



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:58 AM.