LTx Shootout ???
LTx Shootout ??? who's going?
what class you running?
what kind of ets do you expect to see in the heads up classes?
i am working with a friend to prep a car, jsut trying to get an idea of where the car may fit in. thanks
what class you running?
what kind of ets do you expect to see in the heads up classes?
i am working with a friend to prep a car, jsut trying to get an idea of where the car may fit in. thanks
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Just get the car there. So many times, people think they have to build some over-the-top all out 7 second drag beast to be competitive. It leaves them killing their budget, and not enough time to finish/test the car. Think about the HOT ROD pump gas drags. 75 cars were invited, 40 something showed up. A couple of mid 11 second cars were mixing it up, having a blast doing it too. They weren't going to win it, but you can't win it if you don't show up. Being at the event, bench racing with everyone, and having beers with everyone later, is 90% of the fun. The racing is the icing on the cake
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Now to answer your questions, lol.......
This is MY take on it, just my opinion, I'm sure others will chime in....
Outlaw top 16
7.80---9.30
LTx Heads Up power adder top 32
8.80---10.20
LTx Heads Up N/A top 32
9.30---10.60
LTx Heads Up 6-speed top 32
8.80---11.00 (I don't see a lot of cars entering this one)
LTx Extreme top 32
9.50---11.00
A lot of cars will run multiple classes ( I think), I might have to go to this!!!!
This is MY take on it, just my opinion, I'm sure others will chime in....
Outlaw top 16
7.80---9.30
LTx Heads Up power adder top 32
8.80---10.20
LTx Heads Up N/A top 32
9.30---10.60
LTx Heads Up 6-speed top 32
8.80---11.00 (I don't see a lot of cars entering this one)
LTx Extreme top 32
9.50---11.00
A lot of cars will run multiple classes ( I think), I might have to go to this!!!!
Now to answer your questions, lol.......
This is MY take on it, just my opinion, I'm sure others will chime in....
Outlaw top 16
7.80---9.30
LTx Heads Up power adder top 32
8.80---10.20
LTx Heads Up N/A top 32
9.30---10.60
LTx Heads Up 6-speed top 32
8.80---11.00 (I don't see a lot of cars entering this one)
LTx Extreme top 32
9.50---11.00
A lot of cars will run multiple classes ( I think), I might have to go to this!!!!
This is MY take on it, just my opinion, I'm sure others will chime in....
Outlaw top 16
7.80---9.30
LTx Heads Up power adder top 32
8.80---10.20
LTx Heads Up N/A top 32
9.30---10.60
LTx Heads Up 6-speed top 32
8.80---11.00 (I don't see a lot of cars entering this one)
LTx Extreme top 32
9.50---11.00
A lot of cars will run multiple classes ( I think), I might have to go to this!!!!
Is there still a 28" tire limit on the heads up NA class? That will keep away any Stock or Super Stock class cars that might to show up. Unless I misread it, taller tires were only allowed in the heads-up power adder class. Those guys all use 30" to 33" tires.
hmm well my car has a long way to go but im gonna try my hardest to get it there....
im hoping to get my car into the 8's....with a 6 speed.... yes i know i have my work cut out for me but i think my engine has the power to do it....and i will for sure have the chassis....i could run in a few classes but its still too far away to tell anything.... my car is basically a shell right now... same way it has been for the last 2 years while i finish customer cars.... i have NO time to even think about working on mine....but only time will tell....
im hoping to get my car into the 8's....with a 6 speed.... yes i know i have my work cut out for me but i think my engine has the power to do it....and i will for sure have the chassis....i could run in a few classes but its still too far away to tell anything.... my car is basically a shell right now... same way it has been for the last 2 years while i finish customer cars.... i have NO time to even think about working on mine....but only time will tell....
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I just re-read the tire requirements, kinda confusing. Most classes are limited to a 28" W tire, BUT any size drag radial is allowed, except for the Extreme class, where a 27" tire no W's or a 28" Drag radial is allowed.
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The Thunder Shootout had a fair number of Stock class cars, those guys all run 9" X 29.5" or 30" tires. Super Stockers mostly run 12.2" or 13" X 30" to 33" tires. I just use 10.5" X 29.5" bias tires or 10.5" X 30" radials. Don't know why the 28" tire limit? The 10.5" classes have that rule, I'm told, due to the fact the Mustang guys can't easily fit taller tires under those cars. Not an issue for us. If there is an NHRA or IHRA divisional race that weekend I won't be able to come anyway. Haven't seen those schedules yet. Hope you guys have fun.
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I don't mind the 28" tire rule ALTHOUGH AFAIK isn't tony shep running a 29.5 slick on his car???? I'm not sure why he'd outlaw his own car but maybe it's an oversight on his part.... I'm running a 325/50/15 MT drag radial so i'm not concerned with the rule but it might need some investigation.. i'll talk to tony about it...
As far as my car i'm expecting to be running somewhere in the high 8's to low 9's depending on how much nitrous i put to it.... what will matter the most is how much testing/tuning i get between now and then. The motor just got dropped and the car is going to the shop to get the exhaust finished up, wiring done, and then it's going to be scaled.... I expect it to be running and making dyno passes and track outings by 1 January hopefully.... we'll see how my timetable works out. I might end up running all out on motor or just put it on 1 stage and run it in PA heads up.... Cuz runnin it outlaw and being comptetitive is going to take all 400hp worth of nitrous i have on both kits.... and i plan on creeping up on that tune with months of testing,dynoing,retesting....
As far as my car i'm expecting to be running somewhere in the high 8's to low 9's depending on how much nitrous i put to it.... what will matter the most is how much testing/tuning i get between now and then. The motor just got dropped and the car is going to the shop to get the exhaust finished up, wiring done, and then it's going to be scaled.... I expect it to be running and making dyno passes and track outings by 1 January hopefully.... we'll see how my timetable works out. I might end up running all out on motor or just put it on 1 stage and run it in PA heads up.... Cuz runnin it outlaw and being comptetitive is going to take all 400hp worth of nitrous i have on both kits.... and i plan on creeping up on that tune with months of testing,dynoing,retesting....
i will look around, someplace i have a formula that i found when doing research for my events for equating tire sizes. it is based on surface area of the tire. makes leveling the playing field for different tires easier.
one thing about the stock guys, if i remember correctly they are limited to a 9 inch wide section. that is why they run the tall tires. may be something to consider when making that decision.
one thing about the stock guys, if i remember correctly they are limited to a 9 inch wide section. that is why they run the tall tires. may be something to consider when making that decision.
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From: LT1 land...the "409" of the 90s!
Tire size is always a debate no matter what and where you run 
I had to ditch my Hoosiers and get a set of 325/50-15 M/T DRS for the race Getting them to fit was a little work but they now fit just fine I was not looking at it but I could actually shorten the alxe an inch and sit the car down on them if I wanted now.
Even at that with the stock PCM I am limited to around 140MPH.
I am just prying there is going to be enough passes with out hurting any thing. THAT is going to be the key to winning this thing. Not who fastest but who can endure
I had to ditch my Hoosiers and get a set of 325/50-15 M/T DRS for the race Getting them to fit was a little work but they now fit just fine
I was not looking at it but I could actually shorten the alxe an inch and sit the car down on them if I wanted now.Even at that with the stock PCM I am limited to around 140MPH.
I am just prying there is going to be enough passes with out hurting any thing. THAT is going to be the key to winning this thing. Not who fastest but who can endure
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Jeff, Taner, Chris, Ellis,.......correct me if I am wrong. I will get Kyle or Scott to correct the site. I am getting so confused on who I talked to and who said what and when and why! LOL.
Tony
Last edited by Tony Shepherd; Nov 5, 2007 at 10:32 PM.
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From: LT1 land...the "409" of the 90s!
We overlooked that. That was the initial ruling. After we made adjustments I think we agreed unlimited tall slick in Outlaw,......... 29.5" max slick in the P/A and N/A classes, ............. 28" max slick in the 6-speed class .........and 27" max slick in the Extreme class.
Jeff, Taner, Chris, Ellis,.......correct me if I am wrong. I will get Kyle or Scott to correct the site. I am getting so confused on who I talked to and who said what and when and why! LOL.
Tony
Jeff, Taner, Chris, Ellis,.......correct me if I am wrong. I will get Kyle or Scott to correct the site. I am getting so confused on who I talked to and who said what and when and why! LOL.
Tony
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From: windsor, ont. canada - Home of the fastest LT1 6spd.
tony sounds about right. i plan on running the 6 speed class. maybe even the n/a class if allowed to with a bottle not in the car. but realistically, propbably just the one class. would like to get there earlier in the week to make some t'n't passes 
Not a matter of power, it is what the car is geared for. I doubt many will want to buy both gears & tires for a one race deal. The 29.5" bias tires are taller than 30" radials at the finish line. Radials don't grow. You can run them almost touching the fenders, and never leave a mark. The EFI F body stockers all run 30" radials unless the track is just junk.
I should be there repping my Bracket Ninja skills, and try to qualify in Extreme Street. I don't think the car will go much quicker than 11.80s in KC.....by the way, anyone know the elavation and averages DAs they see there at KCIR???