what will it take?
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what will it take? ok, im a cobra owner, im not looking to start a bunch of BS, just get some info.
so what will it take for a 94 M6 LT1 Z to beat my cobra when its done?
somebody i know has said car, and swears that he will take me on the street with just a NA setup, pump as.
little about my car. it will be done come spring, it will be pretty much completely built, making around 700RWHP, with torco, and weight will be under 3300LBS caged, and all.
so assuming the cobra has the driver mod, and is capable of low 10's or so, what will happen on the street from a roll, and also at the track, against the following setups:
NA LT1, built to the Max, to run pump gas
LT1 with spray, to run pump gas
LT1 with blower to run pump
and LT1 with turbo to run pump.
also, assuming the car is 100% stock, how much $$ will it take approximetly to do eac setup, and it be reliable. im talking everything needed, cage, motor, fuel, tranny, rear, suspension, etc.
i can POSSIBLY see the blower, or turbo car doing it on the track. with a good driver of course. and the turbo car possibly on the street.
so lets hear the experts opinions. what do you guys have to say. im not talking he ran this, she ran that. what have YOU done.
remember, this is PUMP gas, not even a little race added, no torco, nothing.
so what will it take for a 94 M6 LT1 Z to beat my cobra when its done?
somebody i know has said car, and swears that he will take me on the street with just a NA setup, pump as.
little about my car. it will be done come spring, it will be pretty much completely built, making around 700RWHP, with torco, and weight will be under 3300LBS caged, and all.
so assuming the cobra has the driver mod, and is capable of low 10's or so, what will happen on the street from a roll, and also at the track, against the following setups:
NA LT1, built to the Max, to run pump gas
LT1 with spray, to run pump gas
LT1 with blower to run pump
and LT1 with turbo to run pump.
also, assuming the car is 100% stock, how much $$ will it take approximetly to do eac setup, and it be reliable. im talking everything needed, cage, motor, fuel, tranny, rear, suspension, etc.
i can POSSIBLY see the blower, or turbo car doing it on the track. with a good driver of course. and the turbo car possibly on the street.
so lets hear the experts opinions. what do you guys have to say. im not talking he ran this, she ran that. what have YOU done.
remember, this is PUMP gas, not even a little race added, no torco, nothing.
Thats a really open ended question.
An LT1 thats max efficiency on motor is like $22k+
An LT1 thats a sick nitrous car is probly $15k+
Turbo and blower are going to be equaly expensive.
Unless we know what parts each setup is going to have then your not going to get an accurate answer.
But...anyone of those choices well built will drag some ***.
Tony.
An LT1 thats max efficiency on motor is like $22k+
An LT1 thats a sick nitrous car is probly $15k+
Turbo and blower are going to be equaly expensive.
Unless we know what parts each setup is going to have then your not going to get an accurate answer.
But...anyone of those choices well built will drag some ***.
Tony.
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Both of them, you are asking a qeustion that is way to general
How about you come back with a setup you like and this is capable of it for the LT1 and also a setup for the cobra then we can talk..
Both of them, you are asking a qeustion that is way to general
How about you come back with a setup you like and this is capable of it for the LT1 and also a setup for the cobra then we can talk..
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the list at the top doesnt specify what kind of fuel they are using..
and i dont know a setup for the Z28, thats why im asking?
i mean, i think my question is pretty simple
LT1 NA pump gas, price, and power
nitrous price and power
blower price and power
turbo price and power
max on PUMP gas
as far as setup, built motor's, for whatever application. built T56 trans. built rear.
whats it cost to do everything?
this person needs a budget, and im also sick of him every day bothering me about how his Z28 is going to run my cobra into the ground. i mean dont get me wrong, i love camaro's, im looking for a 98-02SS right now. but i need info for this LT1. i want to shut him up.
and i dont know a setup for the Z28, thats why im asking?
i mean, i think my question is pretty simple
LT1 NA pump gas, price, and power
nitrous price and power
blower price and power
turbo price and power
max on PUMP gas
as far as setup, built motor's, for whatever application. built T56 trans. built rear.
whats it cost to do everything?
this person needs a budget, and im also sick of him every day bothering me about how his Z28 is going to run my cobra into the ground. i mean dont get me wrong, i love camaro's, im looking for a 98-02SS right now. but i need info for this LT1. i want to shut him up.
Waaayy too general a question. If you want to know if he can keep up or beat you on N/A on pump gas? Sure, as long as his wallet is up to the challenge.
No matter which way he goes it will take some serious coin to get an LT1 reliably into the low 10s/high 9s, but is def possible.
As far as total cost goes, factor in how cheap his car is and how much yours is and it not be as different as you would think in the end.
Too generic a question to really answer though - if you are expecting someone to take the time to write out a whole list of mods and prices for you I think you will be sorely dissapointed.
No matter which way he goes it will take some serious coin to get an LT1 reliably into the low 10s/high 9s, but is def possible.
As far as total cost goes, factor in how cheap his car is and how much yours is and it not be as different as you would think in the end.
Too generic a question to really answer though - if you are expecting someone to take the time to write out a whole list of mods and prices for you I think you will be sorely dissapointed.
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I had a friend with 04 Cobra and more than 40k in the motor, ran an Evo with what they said on the internet was a 1000 hp car, Cobra won one,lost one. The Evo moved up north Cobra transfered out.Ok this where I was going he can put the money in and keep doing it till it stops going any faster then you will know how much he would need to beat you, if he ever does.
My gut says you are not much different from your pal, claiming a 700rwhp, build I bet ends up WAY under that.
Few weeks ago I ran into a blown Merauder at the strip, he was drooling over my NA Caprice, he was running more than half a second slower
with deeper gears more stall and the intercooled blower.The LT1 is potent in competent hands, problem is a shortage of competent hands out there.
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I had a friend with 04 Cobra and more than 40k in the motor, ran an Evo with what they said on the internet was a 1000 hp car, Cobra won one,lost one. The Evo moved up north Cobra transfered out.Ok this where I was going he can put the money in and keep doing it till it stops going any faster then you will know how much he would need to beat you, if he ever does.
thats 15K. and thats blower, and all, lol. for 25K you can take a completely stock 03 cobra, and COMPLETELY built it, interior, cage, motor, blower, return fuel, built trans, rear, everything. turbo setup however will add 5-7K more, + the $3K credit from the blower. so 8-10K on top of the motor cost, and most of those will supply complete front suspension.
a 1000HP evo is no joke though, especially from a stop, or low roll vs. a high power RWD on the street. even if they dont hook, they jsut pull you forward, no getting off of it to recover.
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700rwhp and 3300lbs should add up to a lot less than low 10s, there are NA 520rwhp LTx cars that weigh a little more and run high 9s.
My gut says you are not much different from your pal, claiming a 700rwhp, build I bet ends up WAY under that.
Few weeks ago I ran into a blown Merauder at the strip, he was drooling over my NA Caprice, he was running more than half a second slower with deeper gears more stall and the intercooled blower.
The LT1 is potent in competent hands, problem is a shortage of competent hands out there.
My gut says you are not much different from your pal, claiming a 700rwhp, build I bet ends up WAY under that.
Few weeks ago I ran into a blown Merauder at the strip, he was drooling over my NA Caprice, he was running more than half a second slower
with deeper gears more stall and the intercooled blower.The LT1 is potent in competent hands, problem is a shortage of competent hands out there.
comparable cars on pump gas, and whipples at only 19PSI are seeing up to 630RWHP on stock motors. mine will be done, heads, cams, longtubes. 21PSI.
i will make 700RWHP.
terminators dont launch like Fbod's do, even with a good suspension setup, and a solid, 1.5's are about average. yeah some people are cutting 1.3's, and 1.4's, but not many.
Tell your buddy to come on this site and look around...You are going to get tons of different price figures and dyno figures and track numbers...To me dyno numbers don't mean crap...Dynos are great for tuning, but the numbers do little to impress me...There are way too many builders/tuners preaching high dyno numbers who produce cars that don't trap for crap at the track...I would tell your buddy to look around on here for folks that run the number and talk to them...I've seen supposed 600 rwhp cars only trap 120 mph at the track...Happy dyno? Yep...
If you hang around on this site long enough you'll be able to weed your way thru internet racers with big dynos numbers and no track times and see whos really making everything work...You'd laugh your *** off at my dyno numbers...
--Alan
If you hang around on this site long enough you'll be able to weed your way thru internet racers with big dynos numbers and no track times and see whos really making everything work...You'd laugh your *** off at my dyno numbers...
--Alan
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mine also.....I love telling people mine dyno's less than 400rwhp...then proceed to drag their 500rwhp car down the 1320 
My old setup ran 93 octane pump gas.
11.3 @119 (1.5) NA...but gear/tire/and stall for nitrous
10.4@130 (1.4) 150 shot
new combo will still be a pump gas motor and should see high 10's NA and 9.50's on a big shot.
My old setup ran 93 octane pump gas.
11.3 @119 (1.5) NA...but gear/tire/and stall for nitrous
10.4@130 (1.4) 150 shot
new combo will still be a pump gas motor and should see high 10's NA and 9.50's on a big shot.