View Poll Results: Which stall for my bolt on record LT1?
3200
16
34.78%
3300
2
4.35%
3400
9
19.57%
3500
3
6.52%
3600
16
34.78%
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For a Bolt on LT1 which stall?
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Posting from experiance here...
I have had a 3500 Vig for over 4 years now, it could probably be refreshed but I am a cheep bastard. This was one of my first serious cost mods, I did all the free cheep stuff first then ran into tranny problems, when I pulled the tranny I figured that it was now the perfect time to do the converter, that and I could roll the cost into the price of the repairs and my wife wouldn't kill me for spending $700 on a car part...
As my daily driver I ran the 3500 stall behind a mostly stock LT1 running 2.73 gears for years and was in the 13.1 range. Last I finally came into the ability to spend more on the car and start putting more money into it. 3.73 gears and headers, rockers and exhaust got me into 12.5's. From there, I have tweeked the tune, done some weight reduction and suspension work to get me to 12.0's in the summer heat with 28" tires. I still have a lot of suspension tuning to play with and if I get a pair of sticky 26" tires, I should have a good contender for the record...
For those going to the LTXShootout, you can see it there for yourselves as I hope to get a few more things done before then too...
OK back to the post, YES you can DD a high stall car, NO you don't need 4K+ stall speeds on a bolt-on LT1, it all depends on what you want out of your car and what you are willing to live with...
I have had a 3500 Vig for over 4 years now, it could probably be refreshed but I am a cheep bastard. This was one of my first serious cost mods, I did all the free cheep stuff first then ran into tranny problems, when I pulled the tranny I figured that it was now the perfect time to do the converter, that and I could roll the cost into the price of the repairs and my wife wouldn't kill me for spending $700 on a car part...
As my daily driver I ran the 3500 stall behind a mostly stock LT1 running 2.73 gears for years and was in the 13.1 range. Last I finally came into the ability to spend more on the car and start putting more money into it. 3.73 gears and headers, rockers and exhaust got me into 12.5's. From there, I have tweeked the tune, done some weight reduction and suspension work to get me to 12.0's in the summer heat with 28" tires. I still have a lot of suspension tuning to play with and if I get a pair of sticky 26" tires, I should have a good contender for the record...
For those going to the LTXShootout, you can see it there for yourselves as I hope to get a few more things done before then too...
OK back to the post, YES you can DD a high stall car, NO you don't need 4K+ stall speeds on a bolt-on LT1, it all depends on what you want out of your car and what you are willing to live with...
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awesome post 1slow... honestly u are def a mentor to my goal... pretty much the reason im going to try for it eventually... so thank you for that...
but my question is would a 3600 stall be overkill performance wise? would it be too much stall and not work with the powerband to maxmize my performance?
but my question is would a 3600 stall be overkill performance wise? would it be too much stall and not work with the powerband to maxmize my performance?
12.44 @ 106+ with 3.23s here (1.66 sixty)
using the vigilante 2800/3000 stall
bigger is NOT better for stall on an LT1
less weight, me tuning and 3.42s netted 12.07 (same stall)
using the vigilante 2800/3000 stall
bigger is NOT better for stall on an LT1
less weight, me tuning and 3.42s netted 12.07 (same stall)
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u sure a 3400 wouldnt be better. fast?
and at the end of the year the racing weather up here in new hampshire is perfect... ecpsecially when the alt. is 58ft
and at the end of the year the racing weather up here in new hampshire is perfect... ecpsecially when the alt. is 58ft
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3600 and 3.73 should be easy driveable and great shot at going for the record....
some1 one day will do 4.10 and 4500 stall or so and shatter the old record...wait some1 might already be doing that
some1 one day will do 4.10 and 4500 stall or so and shatter the old record...wait some1 might already be doing that
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no it wouldent....you want it to be about 1000 rpm before peak tq in a record ET situation a little closer to that peak tq is fine...enver seen a stock graph but i imagine tq peaks about 4k
I won't argue that.
that's why I put "2800/3000" (PI pump #0 is what they call a 2800 behind an LT1 but I figure it's around 3000 . . . prob'ly 3400 in my cc306 car (same #0 pump vigilante)
more torque will make the stall higher
the 3200 (#6 pump?) would be a good choice if you want more than the #0 will give ya
I have PI vigilante's in both my LT1 cars
maybe some of the yank guys can chime in as well (or edge or performabuilt even)
I won't argue that.
that's why I put "2800/3000" (PI pump #0 is what they call a 2800 behind an LT1 but I figure it's around 3000 . . . prob'ly 3400 in my cc306 car (same #0 pump vigilante)
more torque will make the stall higher
the 3200 (#6 pump?) would be a good choice if you want more than the #0 will give ya
I have PI vigilante's in both my LT1 cars
maybe some of the yank guys can chime in as well (or edge or performabuilt even)
that's why I put "2800/3000" (PI pump #0 is what they call a 2800 behind an LT1 but I figure it's around 3000 . . . prob'ly 3400 in my cc306 car (same #0 pump vigilante)
more torque will make the stall higher
the 3200 (#6 pump?) would be a good choice if you want more than the #0 will give ya
I have PI vigilante's in both my LT1 cars
maybe some of the yank guys can chime in as well (or edge or performabuilt even)
I have Performabuilt. They ask a bunch of question when you order and set the stall up for your application. Mine flashes exactly to 3000, which is what I wanted. Of course, it works so well that I now wish I had gone just a little larger...lol