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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:07 AM
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Hey all, I read that flowmaster is a garbage cat-back because it's not stainless steel therefore doesn't flow good like SLP LM or GMMG Cat Backs. but what about Magnaflow Cat-backs? I have a wicked deal on getting a Magnaflow Cat-back or should I just stay with the Flowmaster I already have installed?
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:24 AM
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Stainless Steel is always better, But to be honest they all offer about the same HP. Other than the slowmaster.
I personally like the SLP, MagnaFlow, GMMG, Corsa, Borla, Mac (not SS), And of course "What I have on my car" - Hooker (Not SS though)
Just stay away from the Flowmaster. And if you want to improve power quite a bit, go with some Pacesetter LT's and Y-Pipe to up th HP a bit! Good Luck with your decision!
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:29 AM
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lol Who ever told you that doesn't know what they're talking about. They did get it right about the Flowmaster not flowing as good as the rest, but steel or stainless steel will both flow the same if they use the same chamber designs. That, and my last Flowmaster was stainless steel. Wasn't POLISHED, but it was matte finished stainless. I thought all Flowies were stainless.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:37 AM
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lol Who ever told you that doesn't know what they're talking about. They did get it right about the Flowmaster not flowing as good as the rest, but steel or stainless steel will both flow the same if they use the same chamber designs. That, and my last Flowmaster was stainless steel. Wasn't POLISHED, but it was matte finished stainless. I thought all Flowies were stainless.
Not ALL Flowmaster were SS. In fact most are not.
But you are VERY right about the catbacks flowing the same whether they are SS or not.


The only thing to make a catback flow more man, is to open up the tubes (from 2 1/4" to 3" or whatever) And to eliminate any restrictons that are in the exhaust such as the chambers in the muffler or kinks in the tubing..... Thats why most aftermarket catbacks are Mandrel Bent! So whoever said that was a Dumba$$! Buy a 3" catback....And to find out which 1 you like the most you can check out LS1Sounds. Some will sound a lil different if they are on a LS1 though keep in mind.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Earx95LT1
Hey all, I read that flowmaster is a garbage cat-back because it's not stainless steel therefore doesn't flow good like SLP LM or GMMG Cat Backs. but what about Magnaflow Cat-backs? I have a wicked deal on getting a Magnaflow Cat-back or should I just stay with the Flowmaster I already have installed?
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Well i got my lt1 magnaflow catback for $311 shipped
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:41 AM
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Ok so overall why Don't the Flowmasters flow good? design? thanks for the info guys keep it coming!
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:42 AM
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lol Who ever told you that doesn't know what they're talking about. They did get it right about the Flowmaster not flowing as good as the rest, but steel or stainless steel will both flow the same if they use the same chamber designs. That, and my last Flowmaster was stainless steel. Wasn't POLISHED, but it was matte finished stainless. I thought all Flowies were stainless.
Negative the flowmaster cat-backs may have stainless steel tips but they are aluminized steel...which i believe is better than a plain steel when it comes to rusting. Stainless would be the way to go...never have the rust problem. I believe magnaflows are stainless or at least offer a cat-back that is fully stainless. Thats what i have on my DD 96 V6 firebird. Got stainless because i didnt want it to rust and then have to buy another cat-back.

But like Formula350 said it doesnt matter whether it is stainless or steel. What matters in terms of flow is the muffler and what type bends are used. The best flowing bends are mandrel bend which are smooth and do not have ripples in the material on the inside of the bend.
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Well i got my lt1 magnaflow catback for $311 shipped
I AM CANDIAN lol but with the dollar sitting decent I can pick it up for 380 to my door I watched some vids of them oo youtube and man Magnaflow sounds so much better than Flowmaster IMO...
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I AM CANDIAN lol but with the dollar sitting decent I can pick it up for 380 to my door I watched some vids of them oo youtube and man Magnaflow sounds so much better than Flowmaster IMO...
Try www.planetmagnaflow.com i clicked make offer then they sent me email of $311 shipped its full stainless steel catback
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Negative the flowmaster cat-backs may have stainless steel tips but they are aluminized steel...which i believe is better than a plain steel when it comes to rusting. Stainless would be the way to go...never have the rust problem. I believe magnaflows are stainless or at least offer a cat-back that is fully stainless. Thats what i have on my DD 96 V6 firebird. Got stainless because i didnt want it to rust and then have to buy another cat-back.

But like Formula350 said it doesnt matter whether it is stainless or steel. What matters in terms of flow is the muffler and what type bends are used. The best flowing bends are mandrel bend which are smooth and do not have ripples in the material on the inside of the bend.

alright then now I get why they don't flow good.. I just keep seeing stay away from Flowmaster so just wondered why. now I know!
I guess I'll pick up this magnaflow Cat-Back and some LT headers as well kill 2 birds with one stone

any choice on LT's for the LT1? Pacesetters are cheap but are they worth it I need it to be emissions legal!
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Originally Posted by 1996firebirdformula
Try www.planetmagnaflow.com i clicked make offer then they sent me email of $311 shipped its full stainless steel catback
alright man thanks I'll check it out then!
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Originally Posted by Earx95LT1
alright then now I get why they don't flow good.. I just keep seeing stay away from Flowmaster so just wondered why. now I know!
I guess I'll pick up this magnaflow Cat-Back and some LT headers as well kill 2 birds with one stone

any choice on LT's for the LT1? Pacesetters are cheap but are they worth it I need it to be emissions legal!
Don't know if your gonna be able to run LT's with emission
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 1996firebirdformula
Don't know if your gonna be able to run LT's with emission
well from what I have read some offer provisions for EGR and A.I.R. and some don't so I should be ok with the ones that offer it?
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Originally Posted by Earx95LT1
well from what I have read some offer provisions for EGR and A.I.R. and some don't so I should be ok with the ones that offer it?
Well i think with LT's it deletes your catalyic converter
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:59 AM
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My CORSA is 100% stainless steel

...but it was about $1000 installed.

Magnaflow makes a good system. You may not be able to tell the difference because of the low HP numbers, but almost everything flows better than flowmaster (on fbodys at least). I'd jump on that deal.
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Originally Posted by 1996firebirdformula
Well i think with LT's it deletes your catalyic converter
On another forum a guy put dual cat's on after the headers then connected to the y-pipe etc... pretty sure that will work?
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Hey guys, just reading your coments. For what its worth or maybe to comfuse you more, I stuck a hooker cat back on my car and I think it sounds wicked. (No cats and edelbrock headers with the "y" pipe.) Anyone know how my set up compares to the magnaflow or flowmaster
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Originally Posted by NorthernZ
Hey guys, just reading your coments. For what its worth or maybe to comfuse you more, I stuck a hooker cat back on my car and I think it sounds wicked. (No cats and edelbrock headers with the "y" pipe.) Anyone know how my set up compares to the magnaflow or flowmaster
Mmm did your check engine light come on? it throws a code if your cats been removed without tune
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If you have emissions where you are at. I'd go with LT's with cats after the LT's and try that.

If you Fail though, you'll have to go with some midlength headers. Such as Mac Mids. You can keep the factory Cat or use a bypass tube if you ever want to get rid of it. They flow well and offer almost as good of power as the LT's do. Either way you'll have to get the emissions style headers. Good Luck Man!

BTW: Flowmaster mufflers are just very restrictive in the muffler. And usually have kinks in the bends.
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My check engine light is on all the time after the corsa went on. BTW how do I get that off? Its kinda embarassing........

Anyways, Hooker flows just as well as magnaflow and wayyyy better than flowmaster
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