Crane 227 Or The Cc305????
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Launching!
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Crane 227 Or The Cc305???? I need some help picking a cam out...here is what I'm running on my 94 z28.
Full bolt-ons, 373 gears, 52mm TB. on a A4 tranny.
So I want a cam that is street friendly. I do a lot of hwy travel and around town. Something mild w/ decent sound. I've been looking into the Crane 227 and the CC305. Any thoughts on these different cams and which one to go with? As far as a higher stall goes any rec on this as well would be appreciated.
Thanks dudes..
Full bolt-ons, 373 gears, 52mm TB. on a A4 tranny.
So I want a cam that is street friendly. I do a lot of hwy travel and around town. Something mild w/ decent sound. I've been looking into the Crane 227 and the CC305. Any thoughts on these different cams and which one to go with? As far as a higher stall goes any rec on this as well would be appreciated.
Thanks dudes..
The 227 will sound stock and the 305 will sound pretty stock on the 114lsa and have a decently choppy idle on the 112lsa version. Both will have nice street manners. How high are you willing to spin the motor up to? that is huge in determining the right cam. In terms of stall atleast a 3000 stall. Might wanna check out my cam guide at the top of the forum if you haven't already it may have some useful information for you.
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Launching!
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I'm not sure how high I want to spin the motor up to..lol. Umm let me think about this one. I can def tell ya I don't want to be running the **** out of my motor and rev the hell out of it.
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CC certainly isnt junk.
check out the 218/226 here, you may like it: http://www.advancedinduction.com/AiProductsCK.html
read everything at the bottom of that page too.
check out the 218/226 here, you may like it: http://www.advancedinduction.com/AiProductsCK.html
read everything at the bottom of that page too.
Comp's problem is they are too willing to pander to ignorant customers who want too much duration but aren't willing to pay the drivability compromise so they spread the LSA WAY WAY too wide like oh say the 114 being discussed here. Plus they are cast cams for barely any less than the Crane billets.
That little Advanced Induction cam mentioned work nicely too, a friend has a version of it in a cam only car. When we ran same day same track as the more popular options including strokers he was within a few tenths of them with his 170K mile cop car, heads never been off.
That little Advanced Induction cam mentioned work nicely too, a friend has a version of it in a cam only car. When we ran same day same track as the more popular options including strokers he was within a few tenths of them with his 170K mile cop car, heads never been off.
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Launching!
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From: Henderson NV
CC certainly isnt junk.
check out the 218/226 here, you may like it: http://www.advancedinduction.com/AiProductsCK.html
read everything at the bottom of that page too.
check out the 218/226 here, you may like it: http://www.advancedinduction.com/AiProductsCK.html
read everything at the bottom of that page too.
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From: CHITOWN
I dont buy cams for sound like LT1 guys are found of doing, I would buy a cam that FITS YOUR HEADS and what your trying to do.
I would go with the 277 wich is proven 1/4 mile wise, or go with a custom setup to match you personal needs and dont listen to internet racers
I would go with the 277 wich is proven 1/4 mile wise, or go with a custom setup to match you personal needs and dont listen to internet racers
TECH Junkie
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From: CHITOWN
But there Lt1 grinds im not found of really, expect for a couple
And yes im also a HOT CAM HATER and also hate on most off the self cams
I only like what puts down GOOD numbers, and GOOD TRACK TIMES
I could care less about sound, if it cams hard then thats a nice add on but if it doesnt, Im not going to turn my car into a turd for a cool idle
I never said anything about Comp Cam as in the company
But there Lt1 grinds im not found of really, expect for a couple
And yes im also a HOT CAM HATER and also hate on most off the self cams
I only like what puts down GOOD numbers, and GOOD TRACK TIMES
I could care less about sound, if it cams hard then thats a nice add on but if it doesnt, Im not going to turn my car into a turd for a cool idle
But there Lt1 grinds im not found of really, expect for a couple
And yes im also a HOT CAM HATER and also hate on most off the self cams
I only like what puts down GOOD numbers, and GOOD TRACK TIMES
I could care less about sound, if it cams hard then thats a nice add on but if it doesnt, Im not going to turn my car into a turd for a cool idle
Well Comp Cams LT1 grinds have put down good times and good numbers. I went from trapping 102.5 to 110 when I put my cam in. Javier97Z28 I believe is his name ran 12.0's with the 503 full weight. I have a friend who broke the 360rwhp mark with the 230/236 on stock heads. I have seen people break over the 400rwhp mark with the cc306 a decent heads so obviously they perform. Sure a custom grind camshaft is the optimal choice no doubt but the off the shelf **** can put up good numbers and times too. Your entitled to your own opinion but no need to make all off the shelf cams sound like garbage when they do perform and they do put up good numbers. Also my car has a cool idle but last time I checked low 12's weren't turd times.
Well Comp Cams LT1 grinds have put down good times and good numbers. I went from trapping 102.5 to 110 when I put my cam in. Javier97Z28 I believe is his name ran 12.0's with the 503 full weight. I have a friend who broke the 360rwhp mark with the 230/236 on stock heads. I have seen people break over the 400rwhp mark with the cc306 a decent heads so obviously they perform. Sure a custom grind camshaft is the optimal choice no doubt but the off the shelf **** can put up good numbers and times too. Your entitled to your own opinion but no need to make all off the shelf cams sound like garbage when they do perform and they do put up good numbers. Also my car has a cool idle but last time I checked low 12's weren't turd times.
Here is an article that covers this a little bit by someone who spent a LOT of time in the cam industry.
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/eb90252.htm
^thats a good read. As its good for the cam companies to do that it is understandable why I've always heard you comment on how wide the lobe separations are on many of the off-the shelf stuff. Have you heard what the optimal LCA is for our motors? Im gonna take a guess at around 110?
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From: CHITOWN
Well Comp Cams LT1 grinds have put down good times and good numbers. I went from trapping 102.5 to 110 when I put my cam in. Javier97Z28 I believe is his name ran 12.0's with the 503 full weight. I have a friend who broke the 360rwhp mark with the 230/236 on stock heads. I have seen people break over the 400rwhp mark with the cc306 a decent heads so obviously they perform. Sure a custom grind camshaft is the optimal choice no doubt but the off the shelf **** can put up good numbers and times too. Your entitled to your own opinion but no need to make all off the shelf cams sound like garbage when they do perform and they do put up good numbers. Also my car has a cool idle but last time I checked low 12's weren't turd times.
I said I like a few of the grinds, im not found of most of them
There is no "optimal LCA for our motors". The optimal LCA is going to depend on the application. The size of the cam duration, compression ratio, displacement, drivability considerations, etc all come into play when selecting the right LCA.
here is a good article on lca: http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec...selection.html
here is a good article on lca: http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec...selection.html
the first cam i ever had on the 94z was the crane 227. great manners and great sound. unfortunately i had knock issues and a bad trans so I never got the most out of it. however even with those issues it was great from stop light to stopa nd on the highway it was real nice too. it did hold the cam only record but also remember that that car had some serious weight reduction. don't expect to put it in your car and see 11s with your current mods.
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From: prince rupert
I just wish,
I would of found this site two years ago. I never been much of a computer guy and I love the info on this site. Found this site in late december of 2007, put the hot cam kit in in the spring of 2005!
I would of found this site two years ago. I never been much of a computer guy and I love the info on this site. Found this site in late december of 2007, put the hot cam kit in in the spring of 2005!
