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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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So I took my firebird to the strip for the first time today, first pass, launch from 3300 and it feel like someone achored a boat to it, stutters and bogs and won't accellerate until 4000-4500 rpm then it pulls semi normal, but once i change gears does it again. Its like an extreme misfire - stutter, car just wont accelerate WOT, I can get it to go if I slip clutch really bad or slowly slowly go thru the gears to high rpm.

Plus it takes a million years to start, if it feels like it.

It shakes violently too, I was lucky to get it back home.


Any suggestions as to where I should begin my search?
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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How many miles on the car? Origional Optispark?

Sounds ignition related. Probably the opti.

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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Opti is new vented unit that was installed by the prior owner, shouldn't have more then 2000 miles on it. Also wouldn't an opti trigger and SES light?
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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A friend of mine had that same problem, we ended up finding out one of his spark plug wires were melting on the headers. i would double check your wires make sure there ok. Go threw each wire 1 at a time.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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Will do, prally just gonna change all the wires and plugs, I just noticed that if i slowly give it light throttle it acts normal, but WOT it sputters and attempts to die.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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Clogged Cat(s)?
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LT1
A friend of mine had that same problem, we ended up finding out one of his spark plug wires were melting on the headers. i would double check your wires make sure there ok. Go threw each wire 1 at a time.
That happened to me. I limped home and figured it out right away after a quick look over. Like he said, start with the basics and check for melted or loosely connected plug wires and it wouldn't hurt to pull your plugs out and clean or replace them. Keep us updated. Good luck!
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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bad fuel pump?
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Originally Posted by C_Rules
bad fuel pump?
I'll 2nd this, if it acts normal under light-mod throttle, but goes ape **** under WOT or heavy throttle, i'll bet its a fuel issue.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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Yea, plug wires look ok but maybe im missing something, havent pulled a plug yet, its getting harder and harder to start, and its jumps around at idle sometimes, other times its fine.

No codes tho.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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If it were a miss, your SES light would be flashing most likely. Is there anyway you can scan the car with autotap or any kind of scan tool? Do simple checks. Did you mess around with you plug wires? Are they reversed? Did you check for fuel pressure? How many miles are on the car? Do you have the original cats on the car? Did you check the cats like I stated in the post above? Its going to take some detective work, but you will get it.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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I only have one cat, how will i know if it is clogged?
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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Rattles, exhaust fumes smell funny, rotten egg smell, get the car started and running for awhile, look at the cat to see if its glowing red. (best performed at night)
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Drill some holes in it and see if it helps..
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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I'd say fuel, get a pressure tester and see whats its at. If it doesn't want to start and run under WOT I'd put my money on a bad pump
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Well id just put a fuel filter on it for starters, very common for them to get almost completly clogged and only run at low rpm. Then as stated go for ignition stuff, and put a fuel pressure guage on it..

But hey at least it looks good

ps: if you change the filter on it and you get black colored gas coming out, usually thats the impeller of the pump coming apart and your going to need a new one soon.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 11:56 PM
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I see, just odd, the cat is relatively new (well its off a 99 LS1, but only one of the 2 ls1 cats are used) as is the fuel filter. Fuel pump was supposedly changed last year, but i guess this stuff happens.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Ok wires look ok visually, and I pulled the #1 plug, looks like this

[img]http://www.centuryperformance.com/tech/images/ignition/Plgheat1.jpg[/img

Seems to start up a lil bit better if I prime the fuel a bunch of times. Gonna go out later and get a new filter (again) and a pressure gauge.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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Yea, to solve this mystery heres what we did

- Cleand the TB and IAC really good
- New Autolite 104's
- New Fuel Filter
- Optima Red Top
- Walbro 255

Car runs great now.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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Good to here you got it going. BTW do you have any high res photos of your car, it looks sick. Thats a big block hood right.
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