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05-14-2008, 02:35 PM
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Man I want a bike but I get the whole, you are going to get hurt speech from pretty much everyone around me.
I did the cost analysis on it and it would still come out to several years before the bike paid for itself. Like 10 or so if I can remember correctly. (I nerded out in class and had fun with excel trying to convince myself it was worth it.)
I did the cost analysis on it and it would still come out to several years before the bike paid for itself. Like 10 or so if I can remember correctly. (I nerded out in class and had fun with excel trying to convince myself it was worth it.)
05-14-2008, 03:03 PM
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Man I want a bike but I get the whole, you are going to get hurt speech from pretty much everyone around me.
I did the cost analysis on it and it would still come out to several years before the bike paid for itself. Like 10 or so if I can remember correctly. (I nerded out in class and had fun with excel trying to convince myself it was worth it.)
I did the cost analysis on it and it would still come out to several years before the bike paid for itself. Like 10 or so if I can remember correctly. (I nerded out in class and had fun with excel trying to convince myself it was worth it.)
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05-14-2008, 06:24 PM
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Man I want a bike but I get the whole, you are going to get hurt speech from pretty much everyone around me.
I did the cost analysis on it and it would still come out to several years before the bike paid for itself. Like 10 or so if I can remember correctly. (I nerded out in class and had fun with excel trying to convince myself it was worth it.)
I did the cost analysis on it and it would still come out to several years before the bike paid for itself. Like 10 or so if I can remember correctly. (I nerded out in class and had fun with excel trying to convince myself it was worth it.)
and riding a bike has no parallel in the cager world.
05-14-2008, 07:20 PM
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ok.... I didn't say to buy a bike for its fuel economy. I just did a cost analysis of how long the extra fuel economy a bike gets would take to eventually pay for the bike itself.
05-14-2008, 09:26 PM
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But it is rather funny that you denounce buying a motorcycle for gas
economy, then in the next sentence announce (again) that you did a cost
analysis of fuel economy of a bike compared to its cash outlay. I mean,
the whole reason to do cost analysis is to determine whether it is a financial
advantage to purchase said item. You just might have a chance as a politician
Here's the deal - and I dont have to run a cost-analysis spreadsheet. There
are some bikes you can buy that will outdo a car, "cost analysis wise".
But for the most part, people dont buy bikes (99%) for the gas mileage.
For now, I'm not going to go there, because it's difficult to describe why
someone would buy a bike (beyond the cost analysis thing).
Let me provide some other arguments, if we're talking purely for cost sake.
Where I live, traffic is horrendous during many hours of the day. If you own
a motorcycle, you have the opportunity to use the HOV lane (High Occupancy
Vehicle), which is a dedicated lane to ride into downtown and back.
Also, with a bike, most maintenance items are, in terms of replacement
value, minuscule compare to a car or truck. Yes, I have to buy a chain
for $100 and sprockets for $50 and the rear tire for $170, but pretty much
I can beat everything else on my cars, maintenance wise.
Let's get back to the traffic thing. You know what? That whole avoiding traffic
reduces my stress enormously. It's a proven fact that the American public
is highly stressed because of traffic conditions.
Stuff like that cant possibly equate into any sort of "cost analysis", among
the many other benefits of being a rider, which will never equate into the
whole cost analysis equation.
05-14-2008, 10:16 PM
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As I said, you can't do "cost analysis" on what a bike brings to the table.
But it is rather funny that you denounce buying a motorcycle for gas
economy, then in the next sentence announce (again) that you did a cost
analysis of fuel economy of a bike compared to its cash outlay. I mean,
the whole reason to do cost analysis is to determine whether it is a financial
advantage to purchase said item. You just might have a chance as a politician
Here's the deal - and I dont have to run a cost-analysis spreadsheet. There
are some bikes you can buy that will outdo a car, "cost analysis wise".
But for the most part, people dont buy bikes (99%) for the gas mileage.
For now, I'm not going to go there, because it's difficult to describe why
someone would buy a bike (beyond the cost analysis thing).
Let me provide some other arguments, if we're talking purely for cost sake.
Where I live, traffic is horrendous during many hours of the day. If you own
a motorcycle, you have the opportunity to use the HOV lane (High Occupancy
Vehicle), which is a dedicated lane to ride into downtown and back.
Also, with a bike, most maintenance items are, in terms of replacement
value, minuscule compare to a car or truck. Yes, I have to buy a chain
for $100 and sprockets for $50 and the rear tire for $170, but pretty much
I can beat everything else on my cars, maintenance wise.
Let's get back to the traffic thing. You know what? That whole avoiding traffic
reduces my stress enormously. It's a proven fact that the American public
is highly stressed because of traffic conditions.
Stuff like that cant possibly equate into any sort of "cost analysis", among
the many other benefits of being a rider, which will never equate into the
whole cost analysis equation.
But it is rather funny that you denounce buying a motorcycle for gas
economy, then in the next sentence announce (again) that you did a cost
analysis of fuel economy of a bike compared to its cash outlay. I mean,
the whole reason to do cost analysis is to determine whether it is a financial
advantage to purchase said item. You just might have a chance as a politician
Here's the deal - and I dont have to run a cost-analysis spreadsheet. There
are some bikes you can buy that will outdo a car, "cost analysis wise".
But for the most part, people dont buy bikes (99%) for the gas mileage.
For now, I'm not going to go there, because it's difficult to describe why
someone would buy a bike (beyond the cost analysis thing).
Let me provide some other arguments, if we're talking purely for cost sake.
Where I live, traffic is horrendous during many hours of the day. If you own
a motorcycle, you have the opportunity to use the HOV lane (High Occupancy
Vehicle), which is a dedicated lane to ride into downtown and back.
Also, with a bike, most maintenance items are, in terms of replacement
value, minuscule compare to a car or truck. Yes, I have to buy a chain
for $100 and sprockets for $50 and the rear tire for $170, but pretty much
I can beat everything else on my cars, maintenance wise.
Let's get back to the traffic thing. You know what? That whole avoiding traffic
reduces my stress enormously. It's a proven fact that the American public
is highly stressed because of traffic conditions.
Stuff like that cant possibly equate into any sort of "cost analysis", among
the many other benefits of being a rider, which will never equate into the
whole cost analysis equation.
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05-15-2008, 12:02 PM
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i did! i mean it was costing me $10 a day to get to work and back which is a short trip. thats $50 a week just to get to work. i was either going to half to buy a hoopty honda that i would only get if it had good a/c which could still break, or a bike. and the fact that summer is here and the skirts are out probably had some influence but the main thing that got me bike shopping was gas prices.
05-15-2008, 01:25 PM
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you missed my point entirely. I just wanted to know how long it would take for the increased gas mileage to pay for the initial capital investment. I never denounced buying a bike. I couldn't care less how many things you think go into buying a bike that can not be quantified. I think you were reading way too far into it.
The money I could have saved in gas, since the bike gets better gas mileage than my car. That money saved, how long would it be before it would match my initial capital investment into the bike. Considering inflation etc. I could get into more detail about how I did it but it is not the point. Dumb argument really. Bikes are cool, I want one, but I think I want heads more. end of story.
The money I could have saved in gas, since the bike gets better gas mileage than my car. That money saved, how long would it be before it would match my initial capital investment into the bike. Considering inflation etc. I could get into more detail about how I did it but it is not the point. Dumb argument really. Bikes are cool, I want one, but I think I want heads more. end of story.
05-15-2008, 01:29 PM
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If it looks like I am going to stay out here in Cali for a while when I get back from Iraq, I am totally going to buy a bike. Gas prices and putting the milage on my Z is killing me (64 miles round trip)....
05-15-2008, 02:01 PM
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I love my 04 R6. I get about 42 mpg riding slow, and 36-38 beating on it. Riding is more fun than I thought it would be. Pulling over 15,000 RPM and pounding a sequential gear box is like nothing else (clutch less shifting 
). It's a F1 car with 2 wheels and costs under $10,000 new.
Be careful riding. Be sure to gear up, don't go out wearing sunglasses, batting gloves and a wind breaker and think it's ok. The great American belt sander (highway) is unforgiving. The chances of your casket being open for your funeral are much better if you are wearing gear
. Also, don't ride next to cars. People are stupid, some hate bikers, don't be surprised if you have more than one encounter with an angry driver. Lastly, the Diablo Corsa is the absolute best tire out there. I can't explain to you how dramatic the change in feel is over the stock rubber (I had Dunlop’s oem, not sure what yours has).
Have fun, good luck.
). It's a F1 car with 2 wheels and costs under $10,000 new.Be careful riding. Be sure to gear up, don't go out wearing sunglasses, batting gloves and a wind breaker and think it's ok. The great American belt sander (highway) is unforgiving. The chances of your casket being open for your funeral are much better if you are wearing gear
. Also, don't ride next to cars. People are stupid, some hate bikers, don't be surprised if you have more than one encounter with an angry driver. Lastly, the Diablo Corsa is the absolute best tire out there. I can't explain to you how dramatic the change in feel is over the stock rubber (I had Dunlop’s oem, not sure what yours has).Have fun, good luck.
05-15-2008, 02:44 PM
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^^^ thanks for the tips SS Aleks, is it hard on the transmission to shift without using the clutch at high rpms? i can see that working considering you barely have to pull the clutch in to shift anyway. i definitely need to get some gear cuz like you say, the jeans and **** aint cuttin it. and no matter how careful i am, there's always the other dumb *** out there.
