LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

LT1 vs. LT1

Old Aug 13, 2008 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
You have better low end gearing, he has better top end gearing. That probably explains him taking you on the top end. Despite the weight and power

Oh ya you guys sure do have some nice looking cars!
...Ok. I get what you meant by the gearing, but he weighs less, and has more power. So he has all 3 on me which is why topend was CLEARLY in his favor.


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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 12:44 AM
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I bet at the track you could take him with some DRs. with a good 60ft. It would be right after that he would start pulling you.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
I bet at the track you could take him with some DRs. with a good 60ft. It would be right after that he would start pulling you.
That's what I told him. With more traction in the 1/4 he'd stand no chance, but on the street he is king.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 01:15 AM
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Very true.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LSWHO
What is meant by "these threads?" A racing story where I held off on the outcome to see if people would guess right?

Haven't ever seen one of those myself.
ehh don't get all worked up, most in this particular forum are into the technical discussions and sick of the lt1 vs ls1 bs posts, you would get more results in the street racing thread on this site because you could get more lsxx guys to reply as well and keep it unbiased.

now to the technical...stock for stock (what you both primarily have) the ls will have more topend and the lt more torque on the launch, pretty standard stuff. But if you had DR's like he did it would take advantage of your lt torque and he'd struggle a tad more to catch you on the deep end...1/4mi.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by -PEPE-
ehh don't get all worked up, most in this particular forum are into the technical discussions and sick of the lt1 vs ls1 bs posts, you would get more results in the street racing thread on this site because you could get more lsxx guys to reply as well and keep it unbiased.

now to the technical...stock for stock (what you both primarily have) the ls will have more topend and the lt more torque on the launch, pretty standard stuff. But if you had DR's like he did it would take advantage of your lt torque and he'd struggle a tad more to catch you on the deep end...1/4mi.
We both have LT1s.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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Sorry but this thread is pointless and really lame. It's like saying, supercharged LT1 VS. non supergharged LT1...who wins...I wonder
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Originally Posted by ROWDYZ28
Sorry but this thread is pointless and really lame. It's like saying, supercharged LT1 VS. non supergharged LT1...who wins...I wonder
I would say it depends on the NA LT1s motor.A built LT1 can take a stock blown LT1.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ROWDYZ28
Sorry but this thread is pointless and really lame. It's like saying, supercharged LT1 VS. non supergharged LT1...who wins...I wonder
what!? that makes no sense, i actually really liked this thread because ive always wondered who would be better off someone with a stall and some sticky tires or someone with just full exhaust.

thanks for the thread man goes to show the launch is really a big part of your 1/4.

nice cars too, although im not much of a fan of the fire chickens in the LT1 body style. i like them much better in LS1 form.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ROWDYZ28
Sorry but this thread is pointless and really lame. It's like saying, supercharged LT1 VS. non supergharged LT1...who wins...I wonder
No, it's not. Not at all.

I'm modded for a dig race, he'd modded for a roll race.

To me the outcome is pretty damned interesting.

It's more like Supercharger with 15 lbs boost vs. Turbo with 10-12 lbs boost.

Did you even read the mods!?
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ROWDYZ28
Sorry but this thread is pointless and really lame. It's like saying, supercharged LT1 VS. non supergharged LT1...who wins...I wonder
what the hell are you talking about? it is in NO WAY anything like that ?

good thread, post up some vids if you get the chance to race again !
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro_built7
post up some vids if you get the chance to race again !
We do a new race everytime one of us does a modification, to see actual results. I'll try to remember next time.

I just don't want to mess up the race with a tagalong camera person. Last time we did that it skewed the race very badly when we switched, kinda leaving us wondering what effect they truly had. (it was a 4 carlength difference!) there had to be another variable in there we missed.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LSWHO
We do a new race everytime one of us does a modification, to see actual results. I'll try to remember next time.

I just don't want to mess up the race with a tagalong camera person. Last time we did that it skewed the race very badly when we switched, kinda leaving us wondering what effect they truly had. (it was a 4 carlength difference!) there had to be another variable in there we missed.
ahh...my bad, overlooked that major detail ...my buddy and I used to do the same, whoever modded whatever, we hit some backroads in Mexico and did a little testing.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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So my brother wants to race again this time he says he'll throw in 91 octane and I'll open my cutout. I expect an identical outcome.

If we do, I'll videotape it.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 11:56 PM
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Its an arms race, but neither of you will ever get ahead. You both will keep doing a little something here and a little something there.... Pretty soon your both running LE2 or 3s and spraying or something
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 12:08 AM
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and then again your brothers LT1 just might be stronger than yours

i raced one of my buddies with a 97 M6 LT1 with basically the same mods that i do, except he had a 52mm tb vs. mine which is stock

i totally ripped him apart from every speed that we raced from we did 20 rolls and i'd have a car on him and pulling hard by half way through 2nd and when we did 40 rolls i would have a full car on him by the time i got half way through third gear

some run better than others
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Well stock for stock we trapped identically. Only difference was I was slower due to my gearing.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 02:00 AM
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lol lock this thread pepe is tired of LS VS LT bs posts..... hahaha






read before you make an ignorant comment =)
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kezy219
lol lock this thread pepe is tired of LS VS LT bs posts..... hahaha






read before you make an ignorant comment =)
...what can I say, we all make mistakes, but hey at least I'm man enough to admit my mistake and even join in the conversation, no need to make a personal attack
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Originally Posted by Fixxer99TA
Its an arms race, but neither of you will ever get ahead. You both will keep doing a little something here and a little something there.... Pretty soon your both running LE2 or 3s and spraying or something
agreed...then about 3 yrs down the road you'll both have strokers, 12 bolts, mini-tubbed with ET Streets looking for some feeder to "see who's faster" ...been there done that, the good old days. But we got to the point where low 11's and high 10's on a street driven car needed to be kept on the track ...so we did just that.
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