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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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How does the LT1 stack up against a 4.6 modular mustang 99+? (1.1 liter diffrence) 15 hp diffrence, their ligher too I think. How many have had an 'encounter' with one?
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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stock vs stock is a easy kill
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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i beat one im my dodge truck if that tells you anything
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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Stock for Stock a 2005+ mustang is along the same table with an LT1. And that about what 8 years after LT1 probuction ended.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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yeah those 4.6 2V engines arent all that great. i saw one race my friends bolt ons and cam 98 camaro, the mustang had a supercharger supposidly a built motor, and methanol injection. my friend was pulling away until he hit the meth
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sslateron
How does the LT1 stack up against a 4.6 modular mustang 99+? (1.1 liter diffrence) 15 hp diffrence, their ligher too I think. How many have had an 'encounter' with one?
Thats a 08 I'm lined up against with a stage 2 Roush supercharger and exhaust..pretty fast with them chargers on. They take a while to spool up off the line but when they do they got some get up and got me for a short bit. Top end though we got em..

Stock one though...POOP. They are weak.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 11:27 PM
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Ive raced many with similar bolt-on's, they had no chance in hell.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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Those cars are weak. I even go back and fourth with my buddy's 03 Mach 1.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 12:48 AM
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OMG, im sorry guys but this is just terrible. Okay, a real perspective on mustang GTs vs F-bodies
LT1 vs 94-98 GT = LT1 wins by A LOT
LT1 vs 99-04 GT = Drivers Race, either one can win
LT1 vs 05+ GT = GT will win
LS1 vs 05+ GT = LS1 usually but close enough that can go either way
Average 1/4 mile times
LT1 = 14.0
LS1 = 13.2
94-98 GT = 14.8
99-04 GT = 14.0
05+ = 13.5

EDIT: These are all stock times of course
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by k0261886
OMG, im sorry guys but this is just terrible. Okay, a real perspective on mustang GTs vs F-bodies
LT1 vs 94-98 GT = LT1 wins by A LOT
LT1 vs 99-04 GT = Drivers Race, either one can win
LT1 vs 05+ GT = GT will win
LS1 vs 05+ GT = LS1 usually but close enough that can go either way
Average 1/4 mile times
LT1 = 14.0
LS1 = 13.2
94-98 GT = 14.8
99-04 GT = 14.0
05+ = 13.5

EDIT: These are all stock times of course
Sorry but an LT1 vs 99-04 GT is NOT a drivers race. Screw what each one is rated on paper and on the internet, they get stomped by LT1s in the real world.

05+ is a much better race, and I would consider that a drivers race.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by k0261886
OMG, im sorry guys but this is just terrible. Okay, a real perspective on mustang GTs vs F-bodies
LT1 vs 94-98 GT = LT1 wins by A LOT
LT1 vs 99-04 GT = Drivers Race, either one can win
LT1 vs 05+ GT = GT will win
LS1 vs 05+ GT = LS1 usually but close enough that can go either way
Average 1/4 mile times
LT1 = 14.0
LS1 = 13.2
94-98 GT = 14.8
99-04 GT = 14.0
05+ = 13.5

EDIT: These are all stock times of course
YOU'RE A MOMO I raced a 07 GT when all I had was a cold air and I beat him by more then a car. Explain that MR. This = this.

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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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They are pretty sad all across the rev range. I have taken my fair share down even with my old bolt on TPI. The Mach 1's aren't anything great either. I had one barely pull away from my auto LT1 from a roll. If I had my current Z with the T56 it would have been a draw.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Elliott's94Z
YOU'RE A MOMO I raced a 07 GT when all I had was a cold air and I beat him by more then a car. Explain that MR. This = this.
i agree with elliot on this one, ive beaten a 06 5 speed stang on the highway from about 60-90 and i had about a half car and this was when i had my cold air intake and under drive pullies A4 with 3.23's
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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I used to drive a 97 non-pi mustang gt. All that was done to it was o/r x-pipe and catback exhaust...with a 75-shot i stayed right next to a lt1 camaro with longtubes and ported heads
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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So no cam with the ported heads?? Who does that...lol. The 97 is weak and I would be surprised to see one hang with a bolt on LT1 even with the Stang spraying...but who knows. W/O the juice it would have got lit up like the 4th of July!
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Saw an 06 at the track that was running mid 14.s at about 100mph with a few bolt ons(intakes exhaust etc.) there also was and 04 with some bolt ons and 4.10s. he was running mid 14.s also, but was trapping about 98mph . Im a 96 Formula WS6 M6 stock with a cat back went 13.90 at 101.5. My best Mph was 102
All of us were on street tires
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark SS
They are pretty sad all across the rev range. I have taken my fair share down even with my old bolt on TPI. The Mach 1's aren't anything great either. I had one barely pull away from my auto LT1 from a roll. If I had my current Z with the T56 it would have been a draw.
lol My STOCK 91 TPI, w/ only a 58mm TB (stock intake setup, only mod was I cut the air 'can' way open for more air), AFPR, a tune by ME (my first tune ever) , cat-back and a built trans. I beat many 4.6 mustangs. This was before the new body style, so I can't say on them.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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I still disagree, ill try and get some footage this weekend to support my point.

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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by k0261886
I still disagree, ill try and get some footage this weekend to support my point.
Even if you did have a video it still wouldn't hold true to every scenario or application so I wouldn't bother. The only point that holds true is, the average LT1 is going to smoke a Mustang any day of the week
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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This just happened an hour ago. A bubby of mine who has an 07 mustang with CAI, LT's, ORX, flowcrappers, and a tune, 5spd car. We went to eat and Project Cheap A** LT1 off the spray pulled him by 1 car from a dead stop little shy of a quarter (maybe 10-15ft). LT1 pulled away hard 1st and 2nd gear buy 3 cars. But the trans just doesnt pull hard in 3rd for some reason. So the mustang did catch up but only 1 car length and stop catching. So there. And if any of you dont know about Project Cheap A** LT1:
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Does have nitrous and stand alone fuel but relay is bad so there was no chance of spray until its fixed.

I mean I have less than $3000 in the car with the mods, and it just took an 07 Mustang. Cost for cost, mod for mod LT1 > 05+mustang
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