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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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Well i was racing a guy the other night and when i went from 4th to 5th i accidently hit reverse. Now i can hardly get the car to go into reverse at all. It does not grind. It just doesn't like reverse now. Any ideas guys? Carbon Fiber Synchros (Brass Reverse)
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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did you have the solenoid unhooked on the tranny? the one that locks out reverse? if so, that was dumb.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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WOW, you managed to go into reverse while tryin to hit 5th & it didn't gernade the tranny, rear end, clutch & possibly more? If thats right I'd say you got DAMN lucky with it. Althought I dont see how this is possible cause there is a reverse lockout on these T56 tranny's. I dont think in my whole time on here I have ever seen anyone else achieve this.

You can get any parts needed for it from Tick Performance.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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With a little excitement the solonoid is easily overcome even when active
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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With a little excitement the solonoid is easily overcome even when active
LOL, a little excitement is a understatement. I have banged 5th hard on the HWY so many times I cant remember & never achieved goin into reverse. Makes me think his lockout was not working to begin with.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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The solenoid is not unhooked on the tranny, and it didn't actually engage into reverse. I dont know how i hit reverse when trying to get 5th, but i did. Just looking for ideas.

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did you have the solenoid unhooked on the tranny? the one that locks out reverse? if so, that was dumb.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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I just missed 5th and pushed it to far over and hit reverse. I haven't had the 6 speed very long, i've always had an automatic.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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that was always a fear of mine when i got my m6 never could trust that solenoid for some reason or the other either way good luck with your trans
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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I feel you man, Thats how I fried reverse on my last T-56. Did it at the track though... ugh
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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still crazy. just be a little more careful next time. Did you completely let the clutch out? If so, how did you not wreck your car? going into 5th, at what 130mph or so, and probably just locking up the rear tires, you my friend are a lucky sumbitch. If I was you I would look into buying a new solenoid

I agree with bigmike, I think it would take some serious excitment to bang it into reverse. I myself have slammed it over there into 5th and never had a worry. Just get rolling about 10mph and try to shove it in reverse, just don't let the clutch out, I have tried and never been sucessful
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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probably damaged the solenoid or bent the shift fork
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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I saw a yellow C5 corvette at island dragway do that on the 10th, but then he got back in the staging lanes and ended up running in the low 12s. Good luck with yours trans. If you need parts, Tick Performance has stuff for the T56, and they are easy to deal with.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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It's not that hard to hit Reverse.. I got it a couple of times aswell at 140+mph trying to grab 5th..that Solenoid is very easy to over-ride with the adrenaline pumpin and a short-shifter.

I wish I had a good pic of the Gear to post up..I just tore mine down to re-build it. Basically the Brass Synchro attempted to catch the Gear as it should, but everything was spinning so fast forward that when it tried to engage that Reverse Gear on the Main Shaft that happened to be spinning in the opposite direction(that's how it works, it has one extra gear between the Mainshaft Gear and the Gear on the Countershaft so it spins opposite) it tore the Reverse Gear Engagement Teeth and the inner Teeth on the Slider to ****.

The Teeth are supposed to be pointed on the Gear and the Slider(look like this ^), but instead they were completely squared off, as in both sets of teeth looked rectangular. That is why for me Reverse was so hard to engage, none of the Teeth would line up unless I held it grinding for a sec then it would slide in, and most of the time pop out.

It is possible to grab Reverse at that speed..you would have to hold it there grinding for a few seconds to allow the Countershaft and Clutch to completely stop moving forward and then it will get into whatever is rest of Reverse.

I don't know what would happen then but I bet it wouldn't be pretty.

Me personally I won't try to speed-shift 5th anymore..just let it slide in.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Thanks for all the feedback guys. I appreciate it. Yeah i have a pro 5.0 on the car and the shift **** its self is lose "stripped inside" so it will twist left and right so its not fun grabbing gears. I ordered a new shift **** white hurst shift ball, and come to find out the guy who had the car before me used a short stick for a mustang so the threads are smaller.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Wow..Ford parts for the loss..I hate people that are ignorant and shortcut ****.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Me too bro. He put a 03-04 cobra shift **** on it???!! WTF!
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mrburnout81
did you have the solenoid unhooked on the tranny? the one that locks out reverse? if so, that was dumb.
No , actually this is a dumb statement. If you unplug the solenoid the inhibitor is always ON.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 08:27 AM
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Very true.. it only opens up Reverse when it has power.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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best way unhook the harness from the reverse lock out then u will never have problem miss 5th gear but it will be PIA get into reverse thou
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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you didnt hit reverse, well you might have lol, but i highly doubt it...

i was doing a whole shot a couple months back and when into 5th HARD never actually engaged into 5th so i immediately let off and pulled over, went through the gears and all up top gears (1,3,5,R) were hard to go into

i still have trouble going into them from time to time, but nothing major- basically it feels like it clicks into gear when i know i didnt push it far enough, and if i were to let the clutch out (instead of just putting muscle into it and pushing the shifter into gear) the tranny grinds until i push the clutch back in.... this only happens about once every couple of days, but it still happens- maybe i damg the syncros or the shifter?
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