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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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Hey bro send me a PM if you need a hand and I'll help ya..

I'm not from the Podunk so I know what an Internal Slave is..I've seen a couple..
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Either way, the SDPC kit came to me with an open bag and was missing some pressure plate bolts, so I had to reuse the old bolts. Really cheesy to send your customers already opened bags and missing some parts, I'd rather not bother them anymore.
Another fail for SDPC..they got me with one too..seems like their QA went to ****..
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 07:41 AM
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Got the socket out of the bellhousing...Go to crank it up, SAME PROBLEM. So for a thread recap...
New LS7 PP / Clutch - 0 miles (I torqued the PP down in cris-cross pattern in 5 passes)
New Slave - 0 miles
New Tick Adjustable Master - 0 miles
Still hard to get in gear.
Here are the only things it could be:
1. Bleed more (You got to be kidding me)
2. Needs a shim (Why would the clutch work for 3k miles and then, out of nowhere, need a shim?)
3. Transmission itself. (Not likely)

Does anyone have any suggestions before this car ends up being on of those barn finds in 40 years?
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 07:56 AM
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I doubt it needs a shim..
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
I doubt it needs a shim..
That's what I was thinking. The only thing left for it to possibly be is needing to be bled more, and I don't buy that. The clutch pedal is rock solid, and I've bled until I want to throw up.

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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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I know I have said it before but I still think you are having an issue with release as a result of a miss-adjusted SAC mechanism in the plate. Of course...the only way to test this theory is the put a new clutch in the car and I know that isn't cheap. If you decide to go that route let me know and I will help you as best I can. Thanks,
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SPEC-01
I know I have said it before but I still think you are having an issue with release as a result of a miss-adjusted SAC mechanism in the plate. Of course...the only way to test this theory is the put a new clutch in the car and I know that isn't cheap. If you decide to go that route let me know and I will help you as best I can. Thanks,
I did buy and install a new PP/clutch last week, and I still have the problem.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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If you do need a shim I think I may be able to souce some locally here in Jacksonville..I'll check into it.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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Oh, I guess I missed that part...yikes that sucks. Even with the new plate nothing has changed? Same pedal feel and everything?
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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Exact same pedal feel. And after stuffing it in gear, I let the pedal up and it engaged half-way up.

The first time I put in the LS7 PP/Clutch back in April it would engage right off the floor for the first 50 or so miles. It surprised me yesterday when I had to let the clutch pedal up a long ways before it would engage.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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Mid-pedal engagement is where it should be. Of course you are having a rather exceptional situation but I am beginning to think its time for a complete tear-down of the transmission. There is some amis and you have replaced every clutch/hydraulic part possible.

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I took it for a drive this weekend and noticed something else. It's not hard at all to get in gear if I hold the clutch in for two seconds then slide it in to gear. It's still hard to get in gear if I try immediately, though.

It's got to be 1 of 2 things - air in the system or I didn't torque down the PP evenly. I did all passes in cris-cross pattern: snugged the bolts down, then 13 ftlbs, 26ftlbs, 39ftlbs, and last pass 52ftlbs. Was that not good enough?
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Have you done the Drill Mod?
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
Have you done the Drill Mod?
I got a Tick master and it came with a far superior line than the factory one, or so they claim.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Give it a shot and keep us posted!
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Originally Posted by UCABlackChevy
I got a Tick master and it came with a far superior line than the factory one, or so they claim.
Ya they are pretty good.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SPEC-01
Give it a shot and keep us posted!
Spec, do you think being able to go into gear smoothly after holding the clutch in for about 2 seconds is evidence of air or a mis-torqued pressure plate? I thought I did a good job torqueing down the plate and I don't see how it could still be air after all the fluid and different parts that have been through it.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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Man I am so disgusted that there are this many of us that have to put up with this ****. If a re-torque doesnt' do it I will be VERY interested to see what a shim does for you... In my mind thats the last option left, and one I see my self trying.
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Fck re-torque..impact that thing on in a criss-cross pattern. I did that with my Tex and there is no issues.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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LOL I guess I don't feel as bad about my pressure plate torquing technique now that I read that.

The thing that is bothering me is - why is it going into gear smooth as butter if I hold the clutch in for a couple of seconds? And why can I quick shift it 1>2, 2>3, etc without any problems?
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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The fact that holding pressure on the pedal improves shifting means that either you have an issue with fluid transfer (this restricted fluid flow) or a lazy pressure-plate that could be relative to a miss-adjusted SAC mechanism. Of course, I know you changed out the parts associated with potentially cause such issues.
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