Clutch Dragging?
12-04-2009, 07:41 AM
#42
Got the socket out of the bellhousing...Go to crank it up, SAME PROBLEM. So for a thread recap...
New LS7 PP / Clutch - 0 miles (I torqued the PP down in cris-cross pattern in 5 passes)
New Slave - 0 miles
New Tick Adjustable Master - 0 miles
Still hard to get in gear.
Here are the only things it could be:
1. Bleed more (You got to be kidding me)
2. Needs a shim (Why would the clutch work for 3k miles and then, out of nowhere, need a shim?)
3. Transmission itself. (Not likely)
Does anyone have any suggestions before this car ends up being on of those barn finds in 40 years?
New LS7 PP / Clutch - 0 miles (I torqued the PP down in cris-cross pattern in 5 passes)
New Slave - 0 miles
New Tick Adjustable Master - 0 miles
Still hard to get in gear.
Here are the only things it could be:
1. Bleed more (You got to be kidding me)
2. Needs a shim (Why would the clutch work for 3k miles and then, out of nowhere, need a shim?)
3. Transmission itself. (Not likely)
Does anyone have any suggestions before this car ends up being on of those barn finds in 40 years?
12-04-2009, 09:20 AM
#45
I know I have said it before but I still think you are having an issue with release as a result of a miss-adjusted SAC mechanism in the plate. Of course...the only way to test this theory is the put a new clutch in the car and I know that isn't cheap. If you decide to go that route let me know and I will help you as best I can. Thanks,
12-04-2009, 09:33 AM
#46
I know I have said it before but I still think you are having an issue with release as a result of a miss-adjusted SAC mechanism in the plate. Of course...the only way to test this theory is the put a new clutch in the car and I know that isn't cheap. If you decide to go that route let me know and I will help you as best I can. Thanks,
12-04-2009, 02:21 PM
#49
Exact same pedal feel. And after stuffing it in gear, I let the pedal up and it engaged half-way up.
The first time I put in the LS7 PP/Clutch back in April it would engage right off the floor for the first 50 or so miles. It surprised me yesterday when I had to let the clutch pedal up a long ways before it would engage.
The first time I put in the LS7 PP/Clutch back in April it would engage right off the floor for the first 50 or so miles. It surprised me yesterday when I had to let the clutch pedal up a long ways before it would engage.
12-04-2009, 04:37 PM
#50
Mid-pedal engagement is where it should be. Of course you are having a rather exceptional situation but I am beginning to think its time for a complete tear-down of the transmission. There is some amis and you have replaced every clutch/hydraulic part possible.
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12-07-2009, 08:22 AM
#51
I took it for a drive this weekend and noticed something else. It's not hard at all to get in gear if I hold the clutch in for two seconds then slide it in to gear. It's still hard to get in gear if I try immediately, though.
It's got to be 1 of 2 things - air in the system or I didn't torque down the PP evenly. I did all passes in cris-cross pattern: snugged the bolts down, then 13 ftlbs, 26ftlbs, 39ftlbs, and last pass 52ftlbs. Was that not good enough?
It's got to be 1 of 2 things - air in the system or I didn't torque down the PP evenly. I did all passes in cris-cross pattern: snugged the bolts down, then 13 ftlbs, 26ftlbs, 39ftlbs, and last pass 52ftlbs. Was that not good enough?
12-07-2009, 02:25 PM
#56
Spec, do you think being able to go into gear smoothly after holding the clutch in for about 2 seconds is evidence of air or a mis-torqued pressure plate? I thought I did a good job torqueing down the plate and I don't see how it could still be air after all the fluid and different parts that have been through it.
12-07-2009, 10:08 PM
#57
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Man I am so disgusted that there are this many of us that have to put up with this ****. If a re-torque doesnt' do it I will be VERY interested to see what a shim does for you... In my mind thats the last option left, and one I see my self trying.
12-08-2009, 08:26 AM
#59
LOL I guess I don't feel as bad about my pressure plate torquing technique now that I read that.
The thing that is bothering me is - why is it going into gear smooth as butter if I hold the clutch in for a couple of seconds? And why can I quick shift it 1>2, 2>3, etc without any problems?
The thing that is bothering me is - why is it going into gear smooth as butter if I hold the clutch in for a couple of seconds? And why can I quick shift it 1>2, 2>3, etc without any problems?
12-08-2009, 10:18 AM
#60
The fact that holding pressure on the pedal improves shifting means that either you have an issue with fluid transfer (this restricted fluid flow) or a lazy pressure-plate that could be relative to a miss-adjusted SAC mechanism. Of course, I know you changed out the parts associated with potentially cause such issues.