rear main seal question
#21
clutch went have the trans out in my 2000 ss camaro. when i took the flywheel off to get resurfaced there was oil on the flywheel bolts but no sign of oil leaking from the rear main. anyways i have a new rear main but im realy worried about messing around with the seal because i have a feeling im going to replace the seal and its going to b worse off then before. does anyone have advice on wat to do here and is there any place i can order this special tool for installing the seal j-41479? iv looked everywhere for it the dealers wnt order it for me im really in a jam here and just want to get my car back on the road
Am I missing the boat? I see about a dozen posts on here about how to replace the rear main seal correctly, but after reading the OP's first post he say he has "THERE WAS OIL ON THE FLYWHEEL BOLTS BUT NO SIGNS OF OIL LEAKING FROM THE REAR MAIN SEAL" I assume you all know that the flywheel bolt holes are not blind and the manual says to use their G.M. thread sealant with loctite if you dont use the sealant you will have oil seepage through the flywheel bolt holes and on the threads of the bolts and eventually it will seep some motor oil. So the question is Op is that the case or is it the rear main? The reason I say this is because if the rear main is OK you dont want to mess with it, as stated earlier sometimes it will start to leak or leak worse from an improper install.
you are totally missing the boat...
#22
Boathead
clutch went have the trans out in my 2000 ss camaro. when i took the flywheel off to get resurfaced there was oil on the flywheel bolts but no sign of oil leaking from the rear main. anyways i have a new rear main but im realy worried about messing around with the seal because i have a feeling im going to replace the seal and its going to b worse off then before. does anyone have advice on wat to do here and is there any place i can order this special tool for installing the seal j-41479? iv looked everywhere for it the dealers wnt order it for me im really in a jam here and just want to get my car back on the road
#23
You know I have to agree, I kind of question the need to replace the rear main after reading the initial post. I too had a little bit of oil on the threads of the flywheel bolts but saw no sign of a leak at the rear main. I figured there was a reason why GM sealant is specified.
I'm worried he's going to create a worse leak by replacing the rear seal when it doesn't sound like that's a problem.
I'm worried he's going to create a worse leak by replacing the rear seal when it doesn't sound like that's a problem.
#27
You know I have to agree, I kind of question the need to replace the rear main after reading the initial post. I too had a little bit of oil on the threads of the flywheel bolts but saw no sign of a leak at the rear main. I figured there was a reason why GM sealant is specified.
I'm worried he's going to create a worse leak by replacing the rear seal when it doesn't sound like that's a problem.
I'm worried he's going to create a worse leak by replacing the rear seal when it doesn't sound like that's a problem.
#28
#29
A Little Free Education
You know I have to agree, I kind of question the need to replace the rear main after reading the initial post. I too had a little bit of oil on the threads of the flywheel bolts but saw no sign of a leak at the rear main. I figured there was a reason why GM sealant is specified.
I'm worried he's going to create a worse leak by replacing the rear seal when it doesn't sound like that's a problem.
I'm worried he's going to create a worse leak by replacing the rear seal when it doesn't sound like that's a problem.
#30
I am trying to give you a little bit of free education, I have done numerous clutch jobs on these types of vehicles especially the LS series, if you read both the OP's post and my post's there appears to be no oil seepage from the rear main but there is oil present on the bolts as I stated earlier where the flywheel bolts go, the bolt holes are not blind meaning they are threaded all the way through to the oil galleys in the crank itself, if you look at that end of the crank you will also see a small freeze plug there, which is why G.M. specifies you MUST use sealant on the threads of the flywheel bolts they have a special sealant that also has loctite in it and is sold by G.M. and it is specified to be used on the threads, and no it is not because they just want to sell you something, I dont have the part number on hand but I have also used regular old teflon paste with a dab of loctite as well, but it is a step you dont want to omit, you can look it up on the proper procedure to installing a new flywheel on any G.M. service manual or ask anyone that does this type of work on a regular basis, or you can ask NHRATA01 obviously he has read it somewhere that the sealant is required and he understands as he seems to have been in the same situation. HAPPY BOATING
It's worth raising this issue because I'm sure there are a number of people who don't use any thread locker or sealant, and find their nice new clutch starts slipping a few thousand miles early from getting oil onto the surfaces.
#31
Correct
Which makes sense, though I had never realized the crank didn't have blind holes. But when I just pulled out my old clutch a few weeks ago I saw some oil on the lower threads on the bolt, but nothing up near the head. I had used blue locktite the first time around a few years ago and it seems as if it sealed well enough. Also the instructions for my Monster clutch specifically mention using GM thread sealer on the flywheel bolts, and plain red locktite on the pressure plate bolts.
It's worth raising this issue because I'm sure there are a number of people who don't use any thread locker or sealant, and find their nice new clutch starts slipping a few thousand miles early from getting oil onto the surfaces.
It's worth raising this issue because I'm sure there are a number of people who don't use any thread locker or sealant, and find their nice new clutch starts slipping a few thousand miles early from getting oil onto the surfaces.
#32
Thanks for helping NHRATA01 out on trying to get this through someones head, I have been a mechanic for over 20 years and a service manager for over 10 of those years, and have come across quite a few "supposed mechanics" there is a difference between a parts changer and a mechanic and when I get these guys that claim they can fix the space shuttle and the Hubble telescope only to find out that I would not let them work on my lawnmower. A good mechanic will listen and learn and not think they already know it all, hell I still learn new things every day, we need to use the K.I.S.S. method "keep it simple stupid" because car mechanics is definitely not rocket science, always try and diagnose the problem correctly and keep an open mind on the fix at hand, and always keep your ears open you might just learn something.
#33
I definitely used the gm threadlocker/sealant when I did my clutch. I didn't use a special tool for the seal either. Just took my time and pried it out with a flathead, then carefully pushed it in straight by hand. I think I heard that the sealant on the inside of the rear main has some sort of special teflon compound that heats up and binds creating a seal between the rubber and the crank when you first start the car. Thats why you're not supposed to lubricate it with oil.