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Old 11-16-2011, 04:32 AM
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Once its done, I believe this to be sticky worthy.
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Finally got time to head out to the shop to work on it a bit...

The yoke I ordered is the correct OD. 1350 31 spline yoke on left, TH400 yoke on right.



New SSR tailhousing on left, TR6060 tailhousing on right.



Swapped out the cluster from the 6060 tailhousing to the SSR tailhousing:



Swapped out sensors from the 6060 tailhousing to the SSR tailhousing:



Test fit new yoke with the new SSR tailhousing in:


Made a rod for the shift rail linkage:





Connected to the T56 shifter lever:



Measured everything again, and it's actually 31" from the bellhousing to the shifter stub, so overall this tranny is 1 1/2 longer than a T56, and puts the shifter 1 1/2" further back from the original location.



All that's left to do is order a seal for the tailhousing since it didn't come with one. Mill the shifter base down .430", and cut the mainshaft. I still need to measure how much we will be cutting, but from what I see it will be around 2".
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Is that shift rod extension made from hardened tool steel? I'd hate to have that break on the track..

Since you can do machine work, you might want to verify the yoke is fully splined and cut it done to the standard GM length....
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Originally Posted by 85MikeTPI
Is that shift rod extension made from hardened tool steel? I'd hate to have that break on the track..

Since you can do machine work, you might want to verify the yoke is fully splined and cut it done to the standard GM length....
The rod is steel. That's probably what I'll do as well, that yoke is huge, lol.
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If you didn't go to the Magnum mainshaft, could you have used a F-body T56 tailshaft housing? If so, what would you have had to do to make a F-body shifter work?

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Originally Posted by Project GatTagO
If you didn't go to the Magnum mainshaft, could you have used a F-body T56 tailshaft housing? If so, what would you have had to do to make a F-body shifter work?

Andrew
No, in order to use another tail housing (either T56 or SSR), then you have to swap mainshafts since the stock 6060 mainshaft is much shorter and doesn't have enough spline to use a slip yoke style driveshaft. Plus on top of that, the stock mainshaft incorporates a different style driveshaft (not slip yoke like 4th gens).



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Nice work! Do you still need to mill a grove for the speed sensor on the mainshaft?

Sticky worthy for sure!!
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Originally Posted by westtexasbuff
No, in order to use another tail housing (either T56 or SSR), then you have to swap mainshafts since the stock 6060 mainshaft is much shorter and doesn't have enough spline to use a slip yoke style driveshaft. Plus on top of that, the stock mainshaft incorporates a different style driveshaft (not slip yoke like 4th gens).



Gotcha...Is there a shifter made that will go in the forward location?

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Originally Posted by 94camaroz28lt1
Nice work! Do you still need to mill a grove for the speed sensor on the mainshaft?

Sticky worthy for sure!!
Thanks! I still do, I'll have it all done on Friday and will update. After it's done I'll write a pdf like TPIMike did with the 1000whp T56 on stock parts doc, so that way people don't have to scroll through tons of threads to find info.

Originally Posted by Project GatTagO
Gotcha...Is there a shifter made that will go in the forward location?

Andrew
Yeah there is: http://www.thegearbox.org/catalog/it...17/7086456.htm

If you use this shifter, then you wouldn't have to do any conversion, but would have to use a non slip yoke driveshaft like the 5th gens, and it would move the shifter up significantly over stock.
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Have you done any mockup/measurements of the integrated bellhousing into your tunnel? I believe the 2010+ camaro bellhousing is not only longer, but wider than a standard T56 bell.

Along similar lines, has anyone used the RSG SFI replacement bell/plate for the 2010+ camaro TR6060 ?
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Originally Posted by 85MikeTPI
Have you done any mockup/measurements of the integrated bellhousing into your tunnel? I believe the 2010+ camaro bellhousing is not only longer, but wider than a standard T56 bell.

Along similar lines, has anyone used the RSG SFI replacement bell/plate for the 2010+ camaro TR6060 ?
I believe it is the same size physically as a T56 bellhousing, just longer, I'll confirm with pictures this weekend to make sure though. BTW, thanks for the pm on the race, I found both the race and tailhousing seal at Oreilley's.

I saw the bell/plate at SEMA... looks good, probably real pricy though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHi9VzgWy3g

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Originally Posted by westtexasbuff
I saw the bell/plate at SEMA... looks good, probably real pricy though.
Yeah. The placard sitting next to it at the SEMA show listed it at $2050 including the SFI quicktime bell, the adapter plate, and the modified Magnum front plate.
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Originally Posted by 85MikeTPI
Yeah. The placard sitting next to it at the SEMA show listed it at $2050 including the SFI quicktime bell, the adapter plate, and the modified Magnum front plate.
It is really unfortunate that Tremec has gone to an integrated bellhousing design because it really makes things like SFI bellhousings very expensive to implement.

One of the great transmission is the Getrag V160 from the Turbo Supras. It has an integrated bellhousing which really limits the use of that transmission for other applications.

I would also like to ad that the new CTSV TR6060 has a deeper bellhousing and longer input shaft to accommodate the stock dual disk clutch.

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Is there any reason you cant use an SSR output, tailhousing, and slip yoke on the TR6060?

Seems like that would be easier than a viper shaft and about the same cost if you are starting with nothing other than a 6060.
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Originally Posted by Turtle Bite
Is there any reason you cant use an SSR output, tailhousing, and slip yoke on the TR6060?

Seems like that would be easier than a viper shaft and about the same cost if you are starting with nothing other than a 6060.
^^^ Latest updates are with me using a SSR tailhousing instead of the T56 tailhousing with a 1350 31 spline slip yoke. You can't use a SSR mainshaft as the bearing and synchro spacing is all different from the 6060. Not using a viper mainshaft, I am using a T56 magnum mainshaft.
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I removed the bearing race from the 6060 tailhousing and placed it in the new SSR tailhousing:


Got the SSR tailhousing seal from Oreilley's since it didn't come with one when I bought it. PN: 23049496


Bronze shifter lever cup:


Still need to cut the mainshaft.
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Wow You do good work!
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Originally Posted by westtexasbuff
I removed the bearing race from the 6060 tailhousing and placed it in the new SSR tailhousing:

Got the SSR tailhousing seal from Oreilley's since it didn't come with one when I bought it. PN: 23049496
Don't forget you still need to mill down the shifter pad. All those pieces you're installing need to be removed or protected from the metal shavings.....
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I could be wrong but looks like mill marks on the top of the SSR tail, I thought maybe he did that allready?
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Originally Posted by 94camaroz28lt1
I could be wrong but looks like mill marks on the top of the SSR tail, I thought maybe he did that allready?
Those are factory. The tabs on the side will be gone and the rail 'rib' cut into when done. (I've done enough to know... ;-))


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