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Old 02-18-2013, 08:56 PM
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Hello everyone. I currently have a 02 ws6 auto. My question is this. Should I at temp a t56 swap , or sell/ try to trade my car for a manual ? I have a good amount of skill, the swap I think is still a little out of my league. But I think with the help of someone who is more fbody skilled it is doable... The main reason I am considering the swap is I don't want to buy some1 else's headache... I know my car. I know what it needs and what it doesn't need....

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I did it on my car and honestly its not hard just tedious to get everything correct as it would be from the factory. Do a search under my name for my writeup it should answer most if not all your questions.
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Here lies the problem, if you want to do any real racing you'll just be going back to an automatic anyway since T56's don't live. Why not keep it and save yourself the hassle.
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Originally Posted by bmxer8699
Here lies the problem, if you want to do any real racing you'll just be going back to an automatic anyway since T56's don't live. Why not keep it and save yourself the hassle.
saying a t56 wont live is simply not a true statement. fact is that it's much stronger than the 4l60e thats stock in the car now. a built t56 will be just as strong as a well built auto pending the driver doesnt destroy it with bad shifting over and over.

now saying the t56 will never be as quick as a stalled auto is a different story. an auto will be faster and more consistent but there are plenty of t56s in the 10's. if the op was going for an all out drag car then the auto will be faster but if he likes to DRIVE the car and have fun then he may like the manual. its only a backwards swap if you feel that way.
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Originally Posted by redbird555
saying a t56 wont live is simply not a true statement. fact is that it's much stronger than the 4l60e thats stock in the car now. a built t56 will be just as strong as a well built auto pending the driver doesnt destroy it with bad shifting over and over.

now saying the t56 will never be as quick as a stalled auto is a different story. an auto will be faster and more consistent but there are plenty of t56s in the 10's. if the op was going for an all out drag car then the auto will be faster but if he likes to DRIVE the car and have fun then he may like the manual. its only a backwards swap if you feel that way.
I like to DRIVE my car also. I also like to make more then 750rw+. A built T56 is just as shitty as building a 4l60e. Even on street duty with 0 track time and no driver error. The T56 cannot stand up to the power and heat.

I see nothing fun about rebuilding my T56 every year. Did i also mention I never go to the 1/4?
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i love driving my t56 formula but my biddy has a procharged ls1 ta with a built 4l60 with a 3600 stall , its fun as hell to drive and you dont miss a shift with it .
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Originally Posted by bmxer8699
I like to DRIVE my car also. I also like to make more then 750rw+. A built T56 is just as shitty as building a 4l60e. Even on street duty with 0 track time and no driver error. The T56 cannot stand up to the power and heat.

I see nothing fun about rebuilding my T56 every year. Did i also mention I never go to the 1/4?
The op never said he's making 750whp. Bottom line is that's a rare exception. Going by your logic everyone should just swap to a built 4l80e because a built 4l60e is a waste of time also.

If he did make that much power a tr6060 or a magnum would be his best bet there are 6 speeds that will hold that power.

Just because you make stupid power and it takes a well built 4l80 to hold it doesnt mean the t56 or 4l60e is shitty. In fact when they're built right they hold plenty of power. Many go 11's or 10's all day.Go tell everyone on here their tick, and rpm t56's or flt 4l60e's are crap, see how far you get.

^^oh and a procharged ls1 would be fun with ANY trans lol. but hey tell you're buddy that built 4l60e in his procharged TA is crap and will blow up quick, he should swap right to a 4l80, heard it on ls1tech true story.....
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Originally Posted by bmxer8699
I like to DRIVE my car also. I also like to make more then 750rw+. A built T56 is just as shitty as building a 4l60e. Even on street duty with 0 track time and no driver error. The T56 cannot stand up to the power and heat.

I see nothing fun about rebuilding my T56 every year. Did i also mention I never go to the 1/4?
The t56 is a extremly strong transmission if it wasnt they wouldnt put it in 600 hp corvettes, vipers ect if you are rebuilding a t56 once a year and dont have 800rwhp or up you may need to go to driving school. two footing is the key to saving it.
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Originally Posted by bmxer8699
I like to DRIVE my car also. I also like to make more then 750rw+. A built T56 is just as shitty as building a 4l60e. Even on street duty with 0 track time and no driver error. The T56 cannot stand up to the power and heat.

I see nothing fun about rebuilding my T56 every year. Did i also mention I never go to the 1/4?
Completely false. Sure a STOCK T56 might not live up to 700RWHP even, but a built one? It can definitely live, and if he wanted he could even throw a TR6060 in there since he is doing the swap anyways if he had plans to go with a high hp build.



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