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Old Mar 15, 2014 | 04:25 AM
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A few questions for some guys with experience.

Installed RXT in my LS3 Vette. It now has 250 miles on it, and the chattering is earth-shaking. People swore this clutch doesn't chatter, it feels like my monster 3 single. It can and will slip smoothly, then suddenly chatters hard and grabs.

PP was torqued to 35ft lbs per the instructions, everything cleaned thoroughly with brake-kleen. Clutch is properly disengaging, Rev the car to 7k in 1st with the pedal depressed results in no movement. Pedal starts lightly engaging right off the floor, then a "click" is felt in the pedal and chattering starts.

This leads me to believe that the PP may need retorqued checking for the fingers to stop moving. The instructions aren't very clear on this IIRC.

I don't want to pull this phucker apart again, it sucks.

Needing some input, is this normal? Should I retorque?

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by dev1360
A few questions for some guys with experience.

Installed RXT in my LS3 Vette. It now has 250 miles on it, and the chattering is earth-shaking. People swore this clutch doesn't chatter, it feels like my monster 3 single. It can and will slip smoothly, then suddenly chatters hard and grabs.

PP was torqued to 35ft lbs per the instructions, everything cleaned thoroughly with brake-kleen. Clutch is properly disengaging, Rev the car to 7k in 1st with the pedal depressed results in no movement. Pedal starts lightly engaging right off the floor, then a "click" is felt in the pedal and chattering starts.

This leads me to believe that the PP may need retorqued checking for the fingers to stop moving. The instructions aren't very clear on this IIRC.

I don't want to pull this phucker apart again, it sucks.

Needing some input, is this normal? Should I retorque?

Thanks.
I can't help you but I'm interested to hear what happens with it since this is one of the clutches I have been considering and I don't want any chattering. GL!
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Old Mar 15, 2014 | 01:07 PM
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I honestly expected the clutch to chatter but people swear it doesn't. Most say they experienced "slight chatter" during break in. I don't know what they consider slight, but this is heavy.
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Remove the assist spring on the clutch pedal assembly and see if that helps with modulation.

Even though you were not happy with my unit and replaced it with a competitor I'll help all I can. Any fluid contamination will cause chatter, so will lack of torque in hardware (you've covered that), and input shaft issues.

Of course, incorrect flywheel resurfacing will cause this as well... the causes are numerous. Try the spring and let us know if it helps.
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I had the monster 3 in my previous GTO. I loved it. Did exactly what it was supposed to do. I just went with a twin on the vette for the alleged smoothness.

Assist spring was gone with the stock clutch, and I used a new McLeod steel flywheel.

If this amount of chatter is normal, then I'll deal with it, but I'm just trying to gather opinions and experience. It does feel as if the disks are engaging at different times.
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I had the monster 3 in my previous GTO. I loved it. Did exactly what it was supposed to do. I just went with a twin on the vette for the alleged smoothness.

Assist spring was gone with the stock clutch, and I used a new McLeod steel flywheel.

If this amount of chatter is normal, then I'll deal with it, but I'm just trying to gather opinions and experience. It does feel as if the disks are engaging at different times.
Well that's good to hear!

Check for any leaks around the bellhousing area. Do you feel any odd vibrations? Did you measure the setup height on the clutch during installation? Check mounts/etc.

Just brainstorming for you...
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Slave and pilot bearing were not changed. Slave was new 5k miles ago from warranty work at the dealer car only has 15k miles on it. Everything else seemed to be fine. Only the clutch and flywheel were changed.

I didn't specifically measure anything while the car was apart doing the install. A local installer has suggested that he has had to shim the floater in the past when he encountered a similar issue.
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Originally Posted by dev1360
Slave and pilot bearing were not changed. Slave was new 5k miles ago from warranty work at the dealer car only has 15k miles on it. Everything else seemed to be fine. Only the clutch and flywheel were changed.

I didn't specifically measure anything while the car was apart doing the install. A local installer has suggested that he has had to shim the floater in the past when he encountered a similar issue.
Yep, always ALWAYS measure during setup, especially on a aftermarket twin disc setup.

I'd be willing to bet the setup height is wrong causing the setup to drag, thus glazing the friction and instigating chatter.
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Okay, I put a lot of miles on it today. **** this piece of ****.

It's going to need shimmed. The disks are not engaging at the same time. I've heard of shimming the floater plate. I'll just look for more info.
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