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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by vlad1995
okay so almost everyone on camaro zone is telling me to get an ls7 clutch because its better for daily driving, I do drive my car a lot, probably over 1000 miles a month. and according to them with my current power id just be wasting the monsters potential. But I am planing on getting a cam and heads eventually. But only after im done with rebuilding the suspension and all the other little things that will probably fall apart on me. So what i was thinking that maybe i should get an ls7 clutch for now since it will probably take me a year or more to start adding power. and then eventually go aftermarket? and how much power will i be looking at with heads and a cam?
Why would you want to do a clutch job twice when you can get the monster level 2 and be done. My friend has a level 2 in his daily and it's not bad to drive at all.
It should hold the power to what ever your going to throw at it and the customer service from monster is some of the best around. I'm telling you that you will only be hurting the potential of your car by not getting one.
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Lowmiles
I have a level 2 in my bolt ons camaro, works great for driving, I don't run it as hard or drive it as much as my vette. But it's been fine, just think the 5500 rpm launches killed the level 3 in my vette.
Sorry to here that. Maybe you got a bad clutch or something cuz mine lasted over 4yrs dumping it anywhere from 6000-6900 rpms. But there is always good testimonials and bad ones about everything, so that's why it's good to ask original poster.
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by vlad1995
okay so almost everyone on camaro zone is telling me to get an ls7 clutch because its better for daily driving, I do drive my car a lot, probably over 1000 miles a month. and according to them with my current power id just be wasting the monsters potential. But I am planing on getting a cam and heads eventually. But only after im done with rebuilding the suspension and all the other little things that will probably fall apart on me. So what i was thinking that maybe i should get an ls7 clutch for now since it will probably take me a year or more to start adding power. and then eventually go aftermarket? and how much power will i be looking at with heads and a cam?
The LS7 is a pile of crap, plain and simple. The come factory in a few cars besides the C6Z's, that said, it doesn't make it the be-all-end-all. My stock 2014 Camaro SS came with the LS7, after minor bolt ons the clutch was hating life, doing a cam only over the weekend just killed it - and it's got less than 11k miles on it. Guys with C6Z's have issues with these clutches in cars that weigh a few hundred pounds less than your Fbody and are unmodified. People who rave about LS7's typically do not drive their cars aggressively... there are only a handful that have had any sort of success with abuse.

Even if you don't buy a Monster, don't waste your money on the LS7.

All this aside - if you have an issue with your LS7 it has no warranty. If you have issues with mine you're covered for a year (regarless of how it's used). Our stuff has been proven to perform and I could go on and on but won't. Get with one of my distributors and pick up a Level 2, save yourself the headache.

Originally Posted by quiet_storm98
As for the monster clutches my friends gto has a stage 3 and honestly it is a tough clutch but i personally wouldn't want it for a daily driver, it has a really stiff pedal and is like an on/off switch meaning you can't slip it much. I would probably go with a stage 2 for more of a daily driver car. As for your question about heads and cam the power is gonna depend on how agressive of a package you are gonna get, either way though you should be making well over 400rwhp as most h/c cars usually make around 430-450 rwhp or so. I wouldn't waste my time on a ls7 clutch but that's just my opinion
Did the car you drove have an aftermarket master cylinder? The reason I ask is our pedal effort is within 10% of stock, and the engagement window is almost identical to stock. The only way it would be an on/off switch is if the engagement window is reduced, considering it had that and a much stiffer pedal tells me that it has an aftermarket master. They will increase pedal effort roughly 30% over what it would be with factory hydraulics, and of course the ratios are much faster with more fluid displacement so the engagement window shrinks quite a bit.

I would agree on the Level 2 though, spend the extra $50 over the Level 1 and be happy.
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 12:11 PM
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My wife DD's are Trans Am with a Monster level 1 and Tick MC, so if you think that creates to much pedal effort than you just need to man up. LOL
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 12:16 PM
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My wife DD's are Trans Am with a Monster level 1 and Tick MC, so if you think that creates to much pedal effort than you just need to man up. LOL
haha i dont mind it as much as other people, i came from a mustang and their clutches are really heavy, so im used to it.
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 02:46 PM
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We sell alot of the LS7 clutches, but it's mostly to guys that have a weekend cruiser or don't beat on the car heavily. Check out or site, we sell a ton of clutch setups. Here is a link to the all of the clutches we offer....

http://www.tickperformance.com/clutch-kits/

If you need our master also and want to save some money versus buying everything separate...here is the packages that we sell...

http://www.tickperformance.com/clutc...ulic-packages/

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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 10:39 AM
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DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THE LS7. I've heard bad things about the "adjustability" of them... GM designed them so they automatically adjust for the the wearing so you can get consistent pedal feel, it it doesn't always work out.

Monster Level 2 for sure.
1. great pedal pressure, firm, but not excessive by any means
2. takes up at the bottom and grabs
3. plate/ flat disc(level 2/ twin disk) as opposed to puck style(lvl 3 or up) which can chatter(aka more daily friendly)
4. It grabs. HARD.
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SNLPerformance
Did the car you drove have an aftermarket master cylinder? The reason I ask is our pedal effort is within 10% of stock, and the engagement window is almost identical to stock. The only way it would be an on/off switch is if the engagement window is reduced, considering it had that and a much stiffer pedal tells me that it has an aftermarket master. They will increase pedal effort roughly 30% over what it would be with factory hydraulics, and of course the ratios are much faster with more fluid displacement so the engagement window shrinks quite a bit.

I would agree on the Level 2 though, spend the extra $50 over the Level 1 and be happy.
Yeah it had a tick master which i know makes it stiffer. I felt the difference with my mcleod rst clutch when i switched from the stock master.
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by quiet_storm98
Yeah it had a tick master which i know makes it stiffer. I felt the difference with my mcleod rst clutch when i switched from the stock master.
Good deal. Just want to make sure people know that our clutches are not on/off switches with heavy pedals.
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 02:40 AM
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I'll be mainly road racing my car so, is level 2 what I need or do you guys recommend something else?
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 01:47 PM
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I'll be mainly road racing my car so, is level 2 what I need or do you guys recommend something else?
What car do you have, how much power are making, and how often do you take it to the track?
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 03:45 PM
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S2000 with ls1 / 4l60e. I bought it this way and I'm looking to swap out to a t56. Currently making stock power around 300rwhp and Looking to achieve 400-500rwhp (max).

This car will turn into a dedicated weekend hpde track car.

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What car do you have, how much power are making, and how often do you take it to the track?
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rotaz
S2000 with ls1 / 4l60e. I bought it this way and I'm looking to swap out to a t56. Currently making stock power around 300rwhp and Looking to achieve 400-500rwhp (max).

This car will turn into a dedicated weekend hpde track car.
If you are going to make it a track only car I would not recommend the level 2. For your application I would run either the 11'' Ceramic lightweight or if you want an even lower MOI with better pedal feel and smoother engagement go with the LT1-S lightweight. Feel free to give a call if you would like to go into details on this.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tyler ovel
Why would you want to do a clutch job twice when you can get the monster level 2 and be done. My friend has a level 2 in his daily and it's not bad to drive at all.
It should hold the power to what ever your going to throw at it and the customer service from monster is some of the best around. I'm telling you that you will only be hurting the potential of your car by not getting one.
This is why I do not get into these threads that often. No matter what you say, it ends up being based on "price". So why even ask for advice when you've already made up your mind. To hear people say "yeah you're right, go for it"?

"Anything worth doing is worth doing right. Build it right the first time....it's alot cheaper than building it twice!!" ~ ​Tony Mamo

Seriously. Why would you want to do a clutch TWICE. Is the exercise fun? I don't think so. I think they are a PITA to do.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SNLPerformance
If you are going to make it a track only car I would not recommend the level 2. For your application I would run either the 11'' Ceramic lightweight or if you want an even lower MOI with better pedal feel and smoother engagement go with the LT1-S lightweight. Feel free to give a call if you would like to go into details on this.
Ok thanks, once I'm ready purchase I'll give you a shout.
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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rotaz
Ok thanks, once I'm ready purchase I'll give you a shout.
Good to hear, let us know.
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