daily driver clutch recomendation
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daily driver clutch recomendation
Changing out a clutch, and slave cylinder on stock 99 WS6 with 70k miles, what is a decent clutch for daily driving and could take some power later.
What else should I do while I'm in there, this is my first clutch swap.
What else should I do while I'm in there, this is my first clutch swap.
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i would go monster stage 1 with aluminum flywheel
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Go with a monster stage 2 , tick master cylinder , and gm slave , go with the flywheel of your choice.
Whatever you get , make sure you get a tick speed bleeder , it has to be installed when the trans is out , and you really should get a tick master . I got one and was like this is what all the hype is about . If you dont you can always install that later . But its so much easier with the trans out .
Whatever you get , make sure you get a tick speed bleeder , it has to be installed when the trans is out , and you really should get a tick master . I got one and was like this is what all the hype is about . If you dont you can always install that later . But its so much easier with the trans out .
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Also a remote bleeder, slave cylinder, and new rear main seal are a good idea while your in there.
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Go with a monster stage 2 , tick master cylinder , and gm slave , go with the flywheel of your choice.
Whatever you get , make sure you get a tick speed bleeder , it has to be installed when the trans is out , and you really should get a tick master . I got one and was like this is what all the hype is about . If you dont you can always install that later . But its so much easier with the trans out .
Whatever you get , make sure you get a tick speed bleeder , it has to be installed when the trans is out , and you really should get a tick master . I got one and was like this is what all the hype is about . If you dont you can always install that later . But its so much easier with the trans out .
You might look and go "yikes, that's expensive", but when you're re-doing the work, it doesn't feel expensive anymore.
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You cant use the pilot, TOB or slave that it comes with. But Its still a hell of a deal to get a LS7 clutch and flywheel for about $320. That's what I did.
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Don't go LS7, and I used to recommend this setup. I had one in my car from 2006ish-2015, with 40k miles, and less than 10 track passes. It lost the ability to shift past 5.5k, even with a Tick master and endless clutch bleeding. The clutch had tons of life left, and 0 heat spots on the pressure plate or flywheel. I replaced the LS7 with a Monster stage 2 and it works great.
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Don't go LS7, and I used to recommend this setup. I had one in my car from 2006ish-2015, with 40k miles, and less than 10 track passes. It lost the ability to shift past 5.5k, even with a Tick master and endless clutch bleeding. The clutch had tons of life left, and 0 heat spots on the pressure plate or flywheel. I replaced the LS7 with a Monster stage 2 and it works great.
my exact experience , holds fine but blocks shifts once above 5k pretty frequently and that's with weekly fluid changes which help as does very cold weather when it will actually shift at 6k
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Don't go LS7, and I used to recommend this setup. I had one in my car from 2006ish-2015, with 40k miles, and less than 10 track passes. It lost the ability to shift past 5.5k, even with a Tick master and endless clutch bleeding. The clutch had tons of life left, and 0 heat spots on the pressure plate or flywheel. I replaced the LS7 with a Monster stage 2 and it works great.
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I'm read both great reviews and not so great reviews on the LS7 Clutch. But, I drive my car about 5,000 miles a year, I don't race it every weekend, and I don't drop the clutch at 5,500 RPM's. However, I do shift it at 6,000 when I'm doing some spirited driving....
For a car that is mostly stock, is the Monster Clutch worth double the cost?!?
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I'm in the same boat.... My 02 SS has 30,000 miles and I'm wanting to replace the original clutch. For the most part, my car is all original, unmolested, so it's hard to justify over $800 for a Monster Stage II.
I'm read both great reviews and not so great reviews on the LS7 Clutch. But, I drive my car about 5,000 miles a year, I don't race it every weekend, and I don't drop the clutch at 5,500 RPM's. However, I do shift it at 6,000 when I'm doing some spirited driving....
For a car that is mostly stock, is the Monster Clutch worth double the cost?!?
I'm read both great reviews and not so great reviews on the LS7 Clutch. But, I drive my car about 5,000 miles a year, I don't race it every weekend, and I don't drop the clutch at 5,500 RPM's. However, I do shift it at 6,000 when I'm doing some spirited driving....
For a car that is mostly stock, is the Monster Clutch worth double the cost?!?
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If you can get a great deal on an LS7, and don't mind pulling the transmission, I'd say go for it. In my case it lasted ~9 years (40k miles) before it started messing up. Back then it was a $500ish LS7 setup, or $1000 for about the same clutch setup. These were days well before Monster came around lol. But if Monster was around back then, it would have been installed, and saved me money.
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My plan was to install it when I replace the clutch. Problem is- I'm having the hardest time trying to justify the cost of a Monster.
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I've heard it has something to do with the LS7 being self adjusting. But that's just me being a parrot.
If you can get a great deal on an LS7, and don't mind pulling the transmission, I'd say go for it. In my case it lasted ~9 years (40k miles) before it started messing up. Back then it was a $500ish LS7 setup, or $1000 for about the same clutch setup. These were days well before Monster came around lol. But if Monster was around back then, it would have been installed, and saved me money.
If you can get a great deal on an LS7, and don't mind pulling the transmission, I'd say go for it. In my case it lasted ~9 years (40k miles) before it started messing up. Back then it was a $500ish LS7 setup, or $1000 for about the same clutch setup. These were days well before Monster came around lol. But if Monster was around back then, it would have been installed, and saved me money.
I completely understand and respect what you are saying..... I do not want to hijack the OP's thread. I already have the Tick Hydraulics and I Love the Adjustable Clutch Master Cylinder. I bought the MGW Shifter, got a Military Discount, I would recommend that company to Anyone. All I can say is excellent customer service!!
My plan was to install it when I replace the clutch. Problem is- I'm having the hardest time trying to justify the cost of a Monster.
My plan was to install it when I replace the clutch. Problem is- I'm having the hardest time trying to justify the cost of a Monster.
No worries, that still very related to my original query for a few reasons.
I was asking for my self and because I'm putting in a new clutch and slave for a customer at the shop I work at. His is a 99 WS6 and he wants to keep it pretty much stock. I on the other hand want to go much bigger with my '02 WS6.
This guy may be selling the car so he's looking at a more cost effective or cheaper clutch set up, where as I want quality that will perform.
I'm leaning heavily towards the set up that you have blackandgold, but what would be another cheap option for this guys 99 since it seems more than a few of you have had issues with an LS7?
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Monster makes very good robust clutches...the pressure plate fin-like "springs" will add a some stiffness (not a lot..but enough to notice) to the pedal so that is something to think about if you spend time in traffic.
I've got a ML2 with a tick master in my car and the pedal is stiff...i mostly compete (lapping/autox) with the car so it doesnt bother me but for some, this will affect the fun factor...when your car is no longer fun to drive..you will stop driving it.
For street use and street use only...the LS7 setup is good. if you plan on competing, regardless of the discipline then you should look for something more robust (Monster, CenterForce, some McLeods, there are a few others).
if possible, I recommend trying a car with different setups...see how it feels that way, you can put your money down with confidence.
Last edited by brigade24; 04-17-2015 at 09:44 AM. Reason: clarity.
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I've got the Monster Stage 3 with a lightweight flywheel and despite what many say it's completely daily drivable. But you do have to change you driving style since this clutch does NOT like to slip. It will chatter when you ride the clutch too long (backing up on a set of rhino ramps for example).
And actually right now the level 3 is cheaper than the level 2 on monster's web site.
And actually right now the level 3 is cheaper than the level 2 on monster's web site.
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I am in the market for an LS7 clutch for a DD, but wonder why you would have trouble shifting above 5K when it comes as OEM for an engine that redlines much higher?