LS6 clutch kit + slave cylinder / thow out bearing install
08-25-2015, 12:00 PM
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Others have said that as well (hence my question), but on LUK's site, they list LUK 04-216 as the clutch for '06+ Z06 (LS7).
http://catalog.schaeffler-aftermarke...06&engine=7.0L
http://catalog.schaeffler-aftermarke...06&engine=7.0L
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08-25-2015, 01:08 PM
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That's interesting. Were you able to confirm if the pressure plate and clutch disk from "04-216" were the same as what's included in "04-905"? I couldn't find that on their site
08-25-2015, 02:48 PM
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Why don't you call Luk and confirm?
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08-25-2015, 03:11 PM
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I cannot confirm that but they sure look the same. Knowing that companies try to have as few different parts as possible, it would make sense that they are the same. I have the 905 kit installed in my Cougar swap and it feels and drives just like the GM LS 7 clutch that is in my GTO swap.
Why don't you call Luk and confirm?
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Why don't you call Luk and confirm?
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So the 04-905 kit you installed had the LS7 style flywheel? I think the LS6 and LS7 flywheels look different.
08-25-2015, 05:53 PM
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Is LUK 04-173 equivalent to the LS6 clutch then? Since I'm at stock power, I'd prefer to keep the lighter assembly (~8lb lighter).
http://catalog.schaeffler-aftermarke...5.7L&qualfier=
http://catalog.schaeffler-aftermarke...5.7L&qualfier=
08-25-2015, 05:57 PM
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Is LUK 04-173 equivalent to the LS6 clutch then? Since I'm at stock power, I'd prefer to keep the lighter assembly (~8lb lighter).
http://catalog.schaeffler-aftermarke...5.7L&qualfier=
http://catalog.schaeffler-aftermarke...5.7L&qualfier=
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08-26-2015, 08:09 AM
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In case this helps anyone else I thought I’d share this info. I spoke with LUK technical service line and they indicated 04-173 has a torque capacity of 514 ft-lb and 04-905 has a torque capacity of 590 ft-lb. He also indicated 04-905 contains the 04-216 clutch/PP and LFW191 flywheel, which are the parts referenced against the LS7.
With that said, my conclusion is that LUK 04-173 is the same as the GM LS6 clutch (12570806) and LUK 04-905 is the GM LS7 clutch. LUK is the OEM supplier to GM. The LUK packages referenced above come with the clutch, PP, flywheel, throwout bearing, pilot bearing, and alignment tool and are significantly less expensive than the GM part #s.
Also, he indicated the LUK clutch master cylinder (LMC362) and clutch slave cylinder (LSC265/LSC265B) are repackaged AP units.
Links:
LS7:
http://catalog.schaeffler-aftermarke...7.0L&qualfier=
http://catalog.schaeffler-aftermarke...5.7L&qualfier=
LS6:
http://catalog.schaeffler-aftermarke...5.7L&qualfier=
With that said, my conclusion is that LUK 04-173 is the same as the GM LS6 clutch (12570806) and LUK 04-905 is the GM LS7 clutch. LUK is the OEM supplier to GM. The LUK packages referenced above come with the clutch, PP, flywheel, throwout bearing, pilot bearing, and alignment tool and are significantly less expensive than the GM part #s.
Also, he indicated the LUK clutch master cylinder (LMC362) and clutch slave cylinder (LSC265/LSC265B) are repackaged AP units.
Links:
LS7:
http://catalog.schaeffler-aftermarke...7.0L&qualfier=
http://catalog.schaeffler-aftermarke...5.7L&qualfier=
LS6:
http://catalog.schaeffler-aftermarke...5.7L&qualfier=
09-06-2015, 08:44 PM
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It looks like my old flywheel had two balancing pins in it. Should these get transferred to the new flywheel at the exact same locations? The Helms manual doesn't mention to do this.
Also, is it possible to remove or install the balancing pins afterwards (through the access hole)?
Also, is it possible to remove or install the balancing pins afterwards (through the access hole)?
09-06-2015, 09:25 PM
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It looks like my old flywheel had two balancing pins in it. Should these get transferred to the new flywheel at the exact same locations? The Helms manual doesn't mention to do this.
Also, is it possible to remove or install the balancing pins afterwards (through the access hole)?
Also, is it possible to remove or install the balancing pins afterwards (through the access hole)?
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09-06-2015, 09:41 PM
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Yes. There's a bunch of holes toward the OD of the flywhweel and two of them have small pins in them (likely balancing pins).
Here's a bulletin that came with the clutch, but it appears it's not applicable to my '00 Camaro:
LB181 FLYWHEELS REQUIRE BALANCE
WEIGHTS
Vehicles: 1989-96 Chevrolet Corvette (not required for
Camaro or Firebird applications)
Chevrolet Corvettes manufactured from 1989 to 1996
were equipped with a dual-mass flywheel, which cannot
be resurfaced and must be replaced.
The driveline in these vehicles is unusually sensitive to
vibrations. For this reason, the flywheels are designed
to allow fine balancing of the engine and flywheel/clutch
assembly by adding additional balance weight(s).
When replacing the flywheel, the factory fine balance
on the engine must be maintained. To do this, remove
the existing flywheel and place it beside the new one so
both flywheels are in the same position relative to the
crankshaft dowel.
Install the same number of new balance weights in the
same positions as the original flywheel.
Install the crankshaft bolts with Loctite® 262 to prevent
oil leakage and torque all bolts to the specifications
listed below:
Flywheel to Crankshaft Bolt 74 ft-lb (100 Nm)
Clutch to Flywheel Bolt 30 ft-lb (41 Nm)
Here's a bulletin that came with the clutch, but it appears it's not applicable to my '00 Camaro:
LB181 FLYWHEELS REQUIRE BALANCE
WEIGHTS
Vehicles: 1989-96 Chevrolet Corvette (not required for
Camaro or Firebird applications)
Chevrolet Corvettes manufactured from 1989 to 1996
were equipped with a dual-mass flywheel, which cannot
be resurfaced and must be replaced.
The driveline in these vehicles is unusually sensitive to
vibrations. For this reason, the flywheels are designed
to allow fine balancing of the engine and flywheel/clutch
assembly by adding additional balance weight(s).
When replacing the flywheel, the factory fine balance
on the engine must be maintained. To do this, remove
the existing flywheel and place it beside the new one so
both flywheels are in the same position relative to the
crankshaft dowel.
Install the same number of new balance weights in the
same positions as the original flywheel.
Install the crankshaft bolts with Loctite® 262 to prevent
oil leakage and torque all bolts to the specifications
listed below:
Flywheel to Crankshaft Bolt 74 ft-lb (100 Nm)
Clutch to Flywheel Bolt 30 ft-lb (41 Nm)
09-06-2015, 09:55 PM
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Yes. There's a bunch of holes toward the OD of the flywhweel and two of them have small pins in them (likely balancing pins).
Here's a bulletin that came with the clutch, but it appears it's not applicable to my '00 Camaro:
LB181 FLYWHEELS REQUIRE BALANCE
WEIGHTS
Vehicles: 1989-96 Chevrolet Corvette (not required for
Camaro or Firebird applications)
Chevrolet Corvettes manufactured from 1989 to 1996
were equipped with a dual-mass flywheel, which cannot
be resurfaced and must be replaced.
The driveline in these vehicles is unusually sensitive to
vibrations. For this reason, the flywheels are designed
to allow fine balancing of the engine and flywheel/clutch
assembly by adding additional balance weight(s).
When replacing the flywheel, the factory fine balance
on the engine must be maintained. To do this, remove
the existing flywheel and place it beside the new one so
both flywheels are in the same position relative to the
crankshaft dowel.
Install the same number of new balance weights in the
same positions as the original flywheel.
Install the crankshaft bolts with Loctite® 262 to prevent
oil leakage and torque all bolts to the specifications
listed below:
Flywheel to Crankshaft Bolt 74 ft-lb (100 Nm)
Clutch to Flywheel Bolt 30 ft-lb (41 Nm)
Here's a bulletin that came with the clutch, but it appears it's not applicable to my '00 Camaro:
LB181 FLYWHEELS REQUIRE BALANCE
WEIGHTS
Vehicles: 1989-96 Chevrolet Corvette (not required for
Camaro or Firebird applications)
Chevrolet Corvettes manufactured from 1989 to 1996
were equipped with a dual-mass flywheel, which cannot
be resurfaced and must be replaced.
The driveline in these vehicles is unusually sensitive to
vibrations. For this reason, the flywheels are designed
to allow fine balancing of the engine and flywheel/clutch
assembly by adding additional balance weight(s).
When replacing the flywheel, the factory fine balance
on the engine must be maintained. To do this, remove
the existing flywheel and place it beside the new one so
both flywheels are in the same position relative to the
crankshaft dowel.
Install the same number of new balance weights in the
same positions as the original flywheel.
Install the crankshaft bolts with Loctite® 262 to prevent
oil leakage and torque all bolts to the specifications
listed below:
Flywheel to Crankshaft Bolt 74 ft-lb (100 Nm)
Clutch to Flywheel Bolt 30 ft-lb (41 Nm)
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09-07-2015, 04:27 PM
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09-07-2015, 10:54 PM
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My LS7 clutch definitely has 3.
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