Spec 3 In; Shifting Problems
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From: Boring Green, Kentucky
Spec 3 In; Shifting Problems Ok, did the Spec 3 weeks ago, still trying to get to 400 miles to break-in, and I'm experiencing a few things:
1st and 3rd gear are tougher to get in gear.
1) lst gear: Won't go into gear until after I put shifter in reverse first, then it pops in. But it feels mushier than with the stock clutch.
2) 3rd gear: Feels very mushy, and needs some force to be put all the way in gear. Conversely, I did some high rpm shifts from 2nd into 3rd and it didn't go into 3rd! I kept me out! It did this twice in a row. Then I tried it again later, this time making sure I had the clutch floored (and held it there a little longer,) and I grabbed 3rd successfully.
3) All other gears feel normal and clean. Why is it only lst and 3rd?!
4) I've got almost ZERO chatter. Clutch feels great other than the above problems.
5) Could this be shifter problem? I have a Ripper. Re-adjustment needed after the install?
Background: I had a tech friend at a dealership do the Spec 3 install. I told him if the flyweel looks roughed up, to resurface and balance it. He did not do it
. He said it looked fine, and the stock flywheel has only 11,400 miles on it.
Also, we DID put the shim provided by Spec. Could this be the culprit since we did not resurface the flywheel, (so nothing was "taken off?") Do you think that over time, the flywheel will get ground down and my symptoms might go away?
Drill mod and new GM slave were done BTW.
Help!
1st and 3rd gear are tougher to get in gear.
1) lst gear: Won't go into gear until after I put shifter in reverse first, then it pops in. But it feels mushier than with the stock clutch.
2) 3rd gear: Feels very mushy, and needs some force to be put all the way in gear. Conversely, I did some high rpm shifts from 2nd into 3rd and it didn't go into 3rd! I kept me out! It did this twice in a row. Then I tried it again later, this time making sure I had the clutch floored (and held it there a little longer,) and I grabbed 3rd successfully.
3) All other gears feel normal and clean. Why is it only lst and 3rd?!
4) I've got almost ZERO chatter. Clutch feels great other than the above problems.
5) Could this be shifter problem? I have a Ripper. Re-adjustment needed after the install?
Background: I had a tech friend at a dealership do the Spec 3 install. I told him if the flyweel looks roughed up, to resurface and balance it. He did not do it
. He said it looked fine, and the stock flywheel has only 11,400 miles on it.Also, we DID put the shim provided by Spec. Could this be the culprit since we did not resurface the flywheel, (so nothing was "taken off?") Do you think that over time, the flywheel will get ground down and my symptoms might go away?
Drill mod and new GM slave were done BTW.
Help!
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From: Birmingham, AL
SPEC doesn't warranty clutches if the flywheel isn't turned, or so they told me. I had mine turned. I had about 17,500 on mine at the install of my SPEC 3. My car sometimes WILL NOT under any circumstances go into first until I release the clutch a few times and put it in a different gear. It feels like a brick wall is there. I'd be interested to know why this happens.... I do have a little chatter and a weird vibration at certain RPMs. I'm having it pulled back out and I'm bringing my flywheel/clutch to SPEC and they're gonna balance it for me and change out my disc. I hope we can find a solution to this problem! Although, my owner's manual for my 02 TA says that if the car doesn't go into first, to relase and depress the clutch again and try it... Go figure...
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From: philadelphia
Last time i talked to spec they told me they dont recommend
the drill mod.This was about a year ago so im not sure if
they still tell people the same thing.Also i have had the best luck
with stock hydrolics and not bleeding them,they come preblead
from the factory.Hope you get it fixed, i know how frustrating
clutch problems can be.
the drill mod.This was about a year ago so im not sure if
they still tell people the same thing.Also i have had the best luck
with stock hydrolics and not bleeding them,they come preblead
from the factory.Hope you get it fixed, i know how frustrating
clutch problems can be.
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From: Boring Green, Kentucky
Thanks.
Time to resurface the flywheel. Also, 'need to find look further into the drill mod/Spec 3 compatibility. I know I'm going to be looking into the hydraulic situation too.
Thanks for the well wishes, I'm going to be busy soon. I hope I didn't damage the tranny in the process.
Time to resurface the flywheel. Also, 'need to find look further into the drill mod/Spec 3 compatibility. I know I'm going to be looking into the hydraulic situation too.
Thanks for the well wishes, I'm going to be busy soon. I hope I didn't damage the tranny in the process.
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From: nor cal (ripon)
OK, a clutch either works or it doesnt. Engages and disengages. All that makes this happen is fluid pressure. Seems to me you have a little air in the system. And we have the hardest POS hydros to bleed perfectly..
