Another clutch question
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Staging Lane
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Another clutch question I LS/T56 swapped my Chevelle. Used 2000 Camaro t56 with new LS7 clutch and new slave. Also have a tilton adjustable master cylinder. When putting it into first the car seems to just slight jerk forward, but it goes into gear easily no force at all. and if I keep my foot on the clutch and put it into other gears the the car doesn’t move at all, but if I take my foot off and then push the clutch back in it does it again. Just seems weird to me that if I keep my foot on the clutch it doesn’t jerk the car forward at all.
when I first set up the clutch I tried setting up the clutch pedal to be at the factory height, and now that I am reading about how to set up the adjustable master is says to not do that, saying it can over extend the pressure plate fingers. Could I have done that my accident, causing this issue?
Also, I didn’t put a shim in behind the slave cylinder because everything says it doesn’t need one, I didn’t measure for it.
when I first set up the clutch I tried setting up the clutch pedal to be at the factory height, and now that I am reading about how to set up the adjustable master is says to not do that, saying it can over extend the pressure plate fingers. Could I have done that my accident, causing this issue?
Also, I didn’t put a shim in behind the slave cylinder because everything says it doesn’t need one, I didn’t measure for it.
Last edited by JF74chevelle; Jun 16, 2020 at 12:40 PM.
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Staging Lane
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Also, with the tilton master cylinder and this clutch, the clutch feels like an on and off switch it’s pretty hard to drive and annoying. Is there anything to do to fix that? I’m also thinking that I may have toasted the pressure plate by over extending it.
Regardless, I would start by adjusting the master cylinder and pedal per the instructions.
The Triton will feel more sensitive and the travel through the friction point will be much less than a regular stock cylinder. You'll get used to it and it will become second nature, once you build up the special muscle tone required at the base of your calf muscle. (If you drive the car a lot your leg may get a little sore, at first. The discomfort goes away right at about the point you start to get a feel for the clutch.)
You may find that the proper adjustment of the pedal fixes this. (The clutch pedal may be higher than your brake pedal when you are done.)
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Staging Lane
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If the pedal is too high, you can flow too much fluid to the slave cylinder. This can lead to a lot of bad things. If you were already into a problem related to this, I would expect you'd be having major problems.
Regardless, I would start by adjusting the master cylinder and pedal per the instructions.
The Triton will feel more sensitive and the travel through the friction point will be much less than a regular stock cylinder. You'll get used to it and it will become second nature, once you build up the special muscle tone required at the base of your calf muscle. (If you drive the car a lot your leg may get a little sore, at first. The discomfort goes away right at about the point you start to get a feel for the clutch.)
This makes me think that the clutch is too close to the pressure plate. You should have measured everything before you installed the transmission, but if you are having this problem - my guess is that you definitely don't need a shim.
You may find that the proper adjustment of the pedal fixes this. (The clutch pedal may be higher than your brake pedal when you are done.)
Regardless, I would start by adjusting the master cylinder and pedal per the instructions.
The Triton will feel more sensitive and the travel through the friction point will be much less than a regular stock cylinder. You'll get used to it and it will become second nature, once you build up the special muscle tone required at the base of your calf muscle. (If you drive the car a lot your leg may get a little sore, at first. The discomfort goes away right at about the point you start to get a feel for the clutch.)
This makes me think that the clutch is too close to the pressure plate. You should have measured everything before you installed the transmission, but if you are having this problem - my guess is that you definitely don't need a shim.
You may find that the proper adjustment of the pedal fixes this. (The clutch pedal may be higher than your brake pedal when you are done.)
And the transmission does not grind at all when driving around. Even at higher rpm. I do know that the LS7 clutch is SAC so the release point will adjust higher up.
Last edited by JF74chevelle; Jun 18, 2020 at 12:35 AM.
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Staging Lane
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1) air still in the hydraulics
2) the master and pedal need to be adjusted
3) the slave needs a shim behind it.
update, I adjusted the master/pedal every which way and none made a difference on the very slight movement when put into gear. So I will try more bleeding next and then if that doesn’t work then I guess it’s back to square one.
Last edited by JF74chevelle; Jun 18, 2020 at 10:50 AM.
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also did the rev test of putting it in gear and running the motor up to redline, car did not move at all
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I measured everything and the LS7 did need a shim, the monster also did too so I ordered the tick shims and installed them. Fingers crossed everything is good to go!
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Staging Lane
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Well boys... the monster clutch is AWESOME.
The release is perfect and it drives so much nicer than the LS7. For anyone in the future that looks at this thread. Pay the money and get a much better quality clutch. Monster stage 2 is the way to go.
The release is perfect and it drives so much nicer than the LS7. For anyone in the future that looks at this thread. Pay the money and get a much better quality clutch. Monster stage 2 is the way to go.
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I also have a monster stage 2 with 28lb flywheel, didn’t install shim and I feel like my clutch slips under WOT, tried adjusting my tick master cylinder and it hasn’t worked so I’m guessing I’m gonna have to measure for shim. Guess the mechanic who installed my clutch didn’t measure gaps. What size shim did you use?
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I also have a monster stage 2 with 28lb flywheel, didn’t install shim and I feel like my clutch slips under WOT, tried adjusting my tick master cylinder and it hasn’t worked so I’m guessing I’m gonna have to measure for shim. Guess the mechanic who installed my clutch didn’t measure gaps. What size shim did you use?
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finally did it and got measurements the pressure plate on I got 2.27 and from slave to tranny I got 1.99 giving me a difference of .28 would you have an idea of what shin sizes I need? I’m kinda consufed on that